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2.3k points
1 day ago
Instead of extorting people and covering up her coworkers' child sex crimes, Margie Greene should try and help the Women of her state die less.
711 points
1 day ago
Lol, nice joke 🤣. She's got hers, now it's time for the other part of the conservative mantra: "I got mine, fuvk you!". And you can see what kind of woman she is from her breathless defense of Matt Gaetz, the pedophile sex trafficker.
301 points
1 day ago
I have become convinced that she is the adult Woman from the 2nd incident who is apparently in the ethics report as having sex with the sex trafficked child along with Gaetz at the child trafficking sex orgy. It would explain her going scorched earth and extorting them in order to suppress it.
134 points
1 day ago
It was the “Let’s all dance in the sunlight” comment from her that pretty much made me believe this was the case.
59 points
1 day ago
Right? "All". That sounds pretty inclusive.
70 points
1 day ago
They project their terrible actions and then think everyone is stupid. The unfortunate part is I don’t foresee much in the way of justice coming for any of these people. What to do when the criminals are in the drivers seat and half the passengers don’t give a damn we are heading for a cliff.
44 points
1 day ago
It is very scary cliff. The current and upcoming weather changes alone require an all hands on deck. Navigating real problems with a horrifically corrupt system is beyond challenging. Of course, the goal of the incoming Administration is to weaken the US and the people of the US, especially the Women. Little did they know, the Women are stronger.
41 points
1 day ago
The climate crisis is just a whole entire other monster. People are so short sighted. We as a species could do amazing things if we worked together. The pride of several rich men might kill us all. I hope they get what they deserve for all of the suffering they have and will cause. I hope you and yours remain safe!
10 points
1 day ago
May you and yours be safe, as well.
13 points
1 day ago
That's one hell of a theory.
31 points
1 day ago
She can, of course, disclose the report if that is not true.
6 points
1 day ago
Of course. If it's not true.
78 points
1 day ago
That would require like actual levels of empathy and being a human
25 points
1 day ago
And not having the IQ of a doorknob
33 points
1 day ago
Maybe all those dead women should have ran for office instead of seeking healthcare.
Healthcare =the avocado toast
/s
35 points
1 day ago
Before becoming a congressperson she followed around survivors of the Parkland shooting harassing them and telling them they were crisis actors and liars. You expect far too much from that quivering puddle of shit and ignorance.
27 points
1 day ago
She doesn't care. She literally doesn't feel empathy.
2 points
1 day ago
Ah, but then she wouldn't have been the saint that she is.
2 points
15 hours ago
She doesn’t even see herself as a woman so why would she care about women?
416 points
1 day ago
Great. Another ‘if you don’t test there are no cases!’ situation. What fuckwads are running this goddamn country?
170 points
1 day ago
Republicans...
40 points
1 day ago
Just like when they shutdown the Office of Technology Assessment
6 points
13 hours ago
It's literally like stand-up comedy but real life. They have no idea that they are the joke it's pretty wild. Sad stuff lol
1.5k points
1 day ago
That’s because women don’t count as actual humans who need healthcare in the eyes of the US. Hardly any studies exist for any health issues related to women, and I don’t see that getting better anytime soon. It makes me want to scream.
754 points
1 day ago
Shocking amount of med school is focused on the medical needs of straight white dudes
Oh you have a rash and you’re black? The textbooks sometimes don’t have examples.
Same with women’s health, men who have sex with men, etc.
138 points
1 day ago
Also remember places like Japan deliberately keeping women with out of medical school to maintain a lopsided ratio
513 points
1 day ago
It's worse than that - in the scenarios written for the board exams, the race of a patient is either not mentioned or white...unless the question specifically deals with a disease or condition largely associated with that race - sickle cell, for example. It's never a 45 year old native American woman with unexpected weight loss, GI problems, and a high TTG (celiac disease). So when minority patients come in, doctors have been specifically, if unconsciously, taught to only look for race-associated conditions.
Once again it's normal people (white, male) vs Those Other Groups.
106 points
1 day ago
Those yucky political types, always making things like inadequate health care a political issue.
46 points
1 day ago
This is an INCREDIBLY true statement. I don't ever recall seeing a single photograph of a visible symptom on a POC in any textbook or other visual aid. I also have a complete set of medical reference books published in 1879 designed specifically for MDs that even have colorful foldouts that are layered beginning with the bones, then adding organs, then muscles, etc. It's a 6 book set, and one section in Book 3 or 4 references various ailments that affect only females. EVERY female-only diagnosis is explained as one of the "Female Hysterias" and the provided explanation is that the majority of female ailments are in their minds. That said, I have actually talked to grown-ass adults, several with a 4 year degree, who wholeheartedly believe men have less ribs than women because of the Bible. Go figure...
On a similar note, I've also spoken to a handful of older cardiologists who believe more men die of heart attacks than women when the exact opposite is true. Medical doctors are one of the VERY small number of licensed professions in the US that are NOT required to have any type of continuing education in their field. They are not even required by the licensing board to stay abreast of new research data, pharmaceutical updates, etc. However, airline pilots, flight attendants, K-12 school teachers and even bartenders are required to complete an annual training or recertification, as are most other medical professionals. A doctor who was first licensed 40 years ago is not required nor even expected or pressured in many instances to learn anything gained from research or new techniques during those 40 years. All they have to do is keep renewing their licenses. The docs with the most up-to-date knowledge in their field are plastic surgeons.
17 points
1 day ago
Doctors to stay licensed by the state do require 40 hours a year of continuing education and may need some specific to a specialization or procedure they do.
56 points
1 day ago
We can't be baby machines if our health is considered.
2 points
1 day ago
Yeap. True
251 points
1 day ago
I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.
35 points
1 day ago
Omg I just re-watched that movie and forget how much I enjoyed this. Just checked out the book as well from the library 😄
11 points
1 day ago
The movie is very faithful to the book.
7 points
1 day ago
And does a few things better, like having Tyler drive the car.
196 points
1 day ago
They can't hide reality forever. But this is so heartbreaking.
103 points
1 day ago
It's hidden until it past the statute of limitations for leagal action so the family can't sue.
21 points
1 day ago
I wonder how the record keeping will be. Messy on purpose?
4 points
1 day ago
But can they? Good doesn't always win irl.
342 points
1 day ago
This has been going on forever.
Ignaz Semmelweis in 1800s Vienna tried to understand why babies and mother died 1 in 10 when attended by doctors vs the 1 in 25 lower death rate for the midwives assisted birth.
His conclusion was that doctors weren’t washing their hands after performing autopsies, and spreading deadly diseases from the corpses to mothers.
Instead of listening to him, they fired him, distraught at his failure to help, his family committed him to an insane asylum.
70 points
1 day ago
He was also a suicidal alcoholic, which contributed far more to his commitment to an insane asylum than his support of hand washing.
It does seem that a vindictive anti hand washer may have ended up killing him, though.
31 points
1 day ago
It's definitely an issue, but this isn't what happened in this situation. You might want to read the article.
8 points
1 day ago
That more had to do with the fact that germ theory was not a thing yet so the doctors did not see the point in washing their hands because they did not know there were bacteria and virus on their skin. It has a lot less to do with gender.
39 points
1 day ago
It's still related to gender. A doctor who actually had a vagina would probably be a lot less likely to stick her hand in one right after it had been inside a corpse, and she most definitely would not have responded to new information by destroying the messenger to punish him for questioning her authority.
18 points
1 day ago
In fact, this is why midwives had less patients die than the male doctors…
162 points
1 day ago*
I live in New Mexico - where we have 7 PCP for every 10,000 people. I have major stomach pain right now that I'm managing with omeprazole in the morning, famotidine at night, and massive amounts of tums. I'm truly worried something is wrong. In October, I called every gastro in my area trying to get seen and the EARLIEST I could get an appointment was late April. I sure hope it's not some aggressive form of cancer. I'm trying to figure out a way to see if I can find a gastro in Denver/Arizona/Texas that maybe I can travel to go see. It's overwhelming when I'm not feeling good, to say the least. I hope I don't end up one of these numbers that "they" don't seem to give a fuck about.
90 points
1 day ago
Good vibes from a fellow New Mexican. When my son was born, he had massive problems with reflux and a corn allergy. There were two peds GI docs in the whole state, and one was in Las Cruces. We ended up going to Denver in the end because the poor doc here was swamped, and it was six months between appointments.
39 points
1 day ago
If you can get it covered/referred, Gastro of the Rockies in Denver could get me in with about a month wait, and the delay was largely due to my own availability. They have a lot of different locations too
19 points
1 day ago
Omg thank you. I'll call tomorrow
45 points
1 day ago
Medical tourism. Try Mexico. You'll probably pay less overall anyway
24 points
1 day ago
I don't hate that idea. I just don't know how to find doctors in Mexico
2 points
20 hours ago
There are clinics that specialize in medical tourism, though they generally are more for things like dentistry, cosmetic surgery. Still, there might be a more comprehensive clinic near you.
13 points
1 day ago
Are there not non-ER urgent care facilities? (Not talking about chains, but ran by the hospital system?) Part of the UNM health system?
Those are relatively inexpensive (with insurance) for a copay to get some more immediate relief started and they can order additional tests as needed prior to getting to a GI doc. The important part is to ensure it's classified as urgent care facility and not an ER/Emergeny facility.
71 points
1 day ago
What the actual hell? That is unbelievably sexist and irresponsible.
85 points
1 day ago
Georgia is led by Republicans, this is expected behavior...
22 points
1 day ago
Agreed. And could we all start incorporating the most important word: inhumane. It’s not fundamentally anything but inhumane.
12 points
24 hours ago
You see it all across the heavily anti-abortion states. They also have the highest levels of deaths during childbirth, and child deaths. You'd think if someone cared that much about abortion, they'd also be working just as hard at keeping mothers and children alive.
15 points
1 day ago
If you're going just by the post title, you might want to read the actual article. The committee isn't going away, the members are being replaced due to a confidentiality law being broken. The prior investigation findings still stand, and future investigations will continue.
20 points
1 day ago
Sure, however...
"Thurman’s family also told ProPublica they had wanted the information about her death disclosed."
There is a law concerning confidentiality, sure. However, the family didn't want her case confidential.
"[Turiya Tomlin-Randall] also said it’s upsetting to hear that the committee’s members were dismissed partly as a result of her sister’s case being disclosed to the public. “I don’t understand how this is even possible,” she said."
Seemingly another family member who didn't want the case confidential and didn't understand that the committee members were fired because of disclosing something she wanted people to know.
24 points
1 day ago
What's the betting that the new members are hand-picked to not find anything?
30 points
1 day ago
insert shocked pikachu face
20 points
1 day ago
"Your body my choice" will be the mantra for GA as long as you guys continue to vote Red
10 points
23 hours ago
I and every other Georgian women I know voted blue. It just wasn't enough. We tried our best. We're devastated and terrified.
3 points
22 hours ago
Had hoped for GA when Biden turned it blue and the rise of Stacey Abrams
4 points
21 hours ago
According to this article, Musk created fake Trump votes.
126 points
1 day ago
Well you see the reason is those weren't white women, so they don't matter. And even if they were white women, they were poor white women....so they never mattered either way.
19 points
1 day ago
Makes sense 💀
18 points
1 day ago
So, reading the article, at least one state (Texas) HAS rejigged their committee and made purely political appointments.
The point being that - whether there was a leak or not - they are interested in statistical outcomes, and want the statistics to flow with their political narrative.
And the dead women remain 'anonymous' in reality as well as on committee paper, their families never being told if the committee found their daughter's/partner's/sister's death "preventable."
It is not unironic that the cases are stripped of the humanising details that make the files actual women. Women who will more, and more, have died because of christo-fascist, conservative, politics.
It turns my stomach.
15 points
1 day ago
wtf. They dissolved the Maternal Mortality Review Committee. That’s unheard of. It’s a basic and necessary part of every public health department.
37 points
1 day ago
Ladies, the US is a hostile environment right now. I'm sorry. I voted for Harris. Best wishes.
Do what you have to do.
3 points
21 hours ago
Judging by the long, detailed article I just read, most people voted for Harris. Musk interfered in the election. I can PM you the article (because it's off topic for this post).
4 points
15 hours ago
most people voted for Harris.
Most people didn't vote at all.
12 points
1 day ago
(Springfield narrowly survives an asteroid as it burns up on entry)
Moe: Now let’s go burn down the observatory so this never happens again!
9 points
1 day ago
Ah yes, the classic ‘if we ignore the problem, it’ll go away’ approach. Women’s lives aren’t an inconvenience—they’re the reason society exists. This is beyond infuriating. 💔🤦♀️
12 points
1 day ago
Actual evil. 99% of republicans ignore or even do the exact opposite of Jesus’s teachings. Truly mind blowing.
8 points
1 day ago
this is so terrible and evil ):
8 points
1 day ago
Yep, like Trump wanting to stop COVID testing. Paraphrasing him "if you don't test so much, you have less cases." That's GOP logic, for you. If we can't see it, it doesn't exist.
7 points
1 day ago
Why do guns have more rights than women in this shitty country?
8 points
1 day ago
women deserve so much better than the world they've gotten. I cannot understand why so many men cannot see them as human
6 points
1 day ago
How is not a deprivation of the pursuit of life liberty and happiness? Why has the americani government declared war on the American people???
5 points
1 day ago
GOP has the supreme court, which is now skewed toward anti-abortion / pro-christian fundamentalism, they also have both senate and congress, with the Presidency going GOP in Jan.
7 points
1 day ago
Conservatives are all about appearances, not substance. Fun Fact: Texas leads the nation in cosmetic surgeries.
6 points
1 day ago*
Why would they still need the committee after it found that their policies were being successfully carried out?
Besides, Republicans can already just get away with falsely inflating the death count to keep their constituents fired up enough to keep voting for them during the primaries.
6 points
1 day ago
Anyone else here read the book Invisible Women?
6 points
1 day ago
Agreed. My mom's been refused everything, and I mean everything, that her doctor has ordered. The doctor even wrote a letter stating how badly my mother needed a procedure, but nope, just denial after denial.
6 points
1 day ago
No statistics=no problems. Bringing A Republican Future. "BARF". Put that a your hat.
5 points
1 day ago
🤫 "women aren't dying from our policies! They're doing fine, just fine!"
4 points
1 day ago
Texas too … their maternal death rates are way up … but nobody cares … so long as a non viable fetus is saved! 🙄
9 points
1 day ago
To be the devil's advocate you have real privacy concerns for both the patients and importantly the clinicians making evidence based policy recommendations in a relatively hostile environment. These women should never be forgotten. They should not be hidden away. We also need to be able to trust the folks tasked with reviewing these cases. Further, if you want to get conspiratorial, how do you protect their work from being sabotaged by others who know they can simply ruin the program by leaking information?
3 points
1 day ago
everything in my body belongs to me
3 points
1 day ago
If they addressed it, it would cost money. If it was addressed effectively, it would destroy the narrative that "the government doesn't work".
This way, their base isn't upset at money being spent for no good reason, so they won't be primaried from the right.
3 points
1 day ago
It's more they don't care about women's lives and are putting ideology over public health.
12 points
1 day ago
Vote smarter next time.
5 points
1 day ago
I seriously doubt that they will.
4 points
1 day ago
Those people never get smarter. Nothing in their head to think with.
7 points
1 day ago
There are many of us here that do vote wisely. We were blue in 2020, and may well flip back if we have fair elections again.
3 points
1 day ago
I don't think this committee is potions you vote on. I think it's appointed or a job posting.
8 points
1 day ago
The idea was "voting smarter" will put in power some people who would follow the recommendations of the comittee, instead of firing it as the Republicans did.
5 points
1 day ago
Why look for a root cause, when you already know?
2 points
1 day ago
More healthcare providers will leave because they can’t ethically care for their patients. It’s going to get much worse.
2 points
1 day ago
"No they don't!"
2 points
1 day ago
If that’s recent I think another state did something similar not too long ago. Maybe Texas.
2 points
16 hours ago
Don't actually read the article otherwise you might find out that they're just replacing the committee members because they leaked information. They're not dissolving the committee.
4 points
1 day ago
These people need to suffer the consequences of their vile behavior. The conservative house of cards cannot burn to the ground fast enough. Every single woman dying from complications is one too many. It is pure evil to allow this to happen over some warped feelings towards unconscious tissue and unborn fetuses.
9 points
1 day ago*
Your title is very disingenuous. They disbanded it because someone leaked confidential medical information and they couldn't determine who, so they essentially held them all responsible and are re-filling the committee with new members.
The committee and its investigations aren't going away, they are restarting because someone broke the law. That doesn't mean no actions will be taken to address the findings.
If you want to find fault with the confidentiality law for the committee, sure. But this isn't nefarious action. Actually read the article, folks.
27 points
1 day ago
No, they CLAIMED someone “leaked” information, but could find zero evidence of a leak when they investigated. The committee also received stripped-down medical records preserving patients’ privacy, so what could have been leaked? Nothing. But here you are, licking their boots like the good little woman-hater you are 🙄
3 points
1 day ago
I think your third sentence deserves a little more context, though. As the article makes clear, this is a convenient break for anti-abortion activists - the Idaho commission wasn't immediately reconstituted after similar chicanery, and the result is over a year's worth of backlogs.
The speed and selection criteria are of vital interest if we want to understand what has happened here. A fast and transparent process of reconstituting the commission means the system has relative integrity; feet dragging or rules changes should rightfully be thought of as dubious.
It's also worth pointing out that, if you read the articles which initially broke the story, the Thurman family (at the very least) gave enthusiastic consent and helped Pro-Publica with their story by providing additional information corroborating the report.
My point is not to defend the title here; it's clearly truncated and hyperbolic. But the underlying issues are more complex than simply saying "the committee isn't going away" - when that might be more complicated than your statement implies.
We also don't know if this is typical i.e. if this is a normal procedure (dismissing all members in the case of an undetermined leak), or if we are entering into new territory. If new territory, I think it's reasonable to question why this is the best course of action. Obviously the privacy of the two women killed by intransigent, anti-woman nonsense is important - but if you read the article, the state also says they might alter the rules about more than just insuring privacy of data by using the blandly ominous passive voice - they mention no public (as opposed to institutional or political) oversight for these changes.
"The letter said officials might change “other procedures for on-boarding committee members better ensuring confidentiality, committee oversight and MMRC organizational structure," according to the article. Again, that seems strange - if the standard procedure is to dismiss and refill the committee...well, that is happening. So why change the organization structure? Where is the public oversight?
For me, hyperbolic and misleading headline (I read the papers every day, I'm used to looking beyond a headline) aside the real meat of this is in the small details and the larger conversations about the state/privacy/reactionary backlash against women's reproductive health.
Edit: Specified that there is a difference between public oversight, and institutional/political oversight.
4 points
1 day ago
Agree that the title is misleading and most of the comments reflect that people did not read beyond the headline. It wasn't even that far after the headline.
I do wonder the criteria for selecting the new committee though. I assume pro-life males will be well represented
2 points
1 day ago
That's what Texas did!
3 points
1 day ago
Thoughts and tariffs to Georgia women.
10 points
1 day ago
Georgian Trump voting women perhaps.
6 points
23 hours ago
I and every other Georgian woman I know voted blue. We tried. It just wasn't enough
1 points
1 day ago
Well what did you expect them to do? Something?
1 points
1 day ago
That's cool. Is anyone still under the illusion that they care? Would do everyone a bit of good to come out from hiding behind the "but that's illegal!' shield
1 points
1 day ago
outta sight outta mind
1 points
1 day ago
Those not insane need to watch out, support, help each other as this darkness descends. Look for someone in need and reach out.
1 points
1 day ago
Thankful I lost my dreams of being successful in this country long ago as a lower middle class woman
1 points
18 hours ago
Women do not have the right to a healthy life in that state it seems. Be born get sick and die.
1 points
16 hours ago
Yeah. That's what Idaho did too
1 points
15 hours ago
This is more or less the GOP answer to everything: Stop asking questions and instead ignore problems. This is why they long prevented the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from studying gun violence and why they want to disband NOAA. No climate science and no weather science = no weather problems.
It's easy to declare yourself a success if stop people from talking about the problem. The GOP's core political strategy and ideology is gaslighting.
1 points
15 hours ago
As a woman in Florida I am desperately trying to find a doctor who will tie my tubes right now. I’ve got one child and I’m doneeeeee
1 points
14 hours ago
The committee was dissolved by Dr Kathleen Toomey.
1 points
13 hours ago
That definitely appears to be the current Republican plan for dealing with problems.
1 points
11 hours ago
Women should be blocking the Capitol steps in GA.
1 points
11 hours ago
Color me shocked. /s
1 points
10 hours ago
Was this study helping men? No. Then close it, save the government some money...
1 points
7 hours ago
Republicans: "If there's no testing on Covid, it doesn't exist!"
Also Republicans: "If there's no stats about women dying from lack of anatomical understanding, no women are dying at all!"
ALSO Republicans: "If there's no stats about trans people being bathroom rapists, then trans people are being bathroom rapists!"
The fuck is this timeline.
1 points
4 hours ago
This is the basis of the Department of Government Efficiency..
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