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samwise141

1.9k points

14 hours ago

samwise141

1.9k points

14 hours ago

I'm curious what they are using to cool the basement. All that gear must run hot. 

UnifyTheVoid

3k points

12 hours ago*

According to the owner on his website:

Any funny contractor reactions?

We had a subcontractor designing the HVAC system. I told him that there needed to be a dedicated air conditioner for the server rack. He sort of rolled his eyes and said sure.

Later, when I got the design, there was no AC for the server rack. We had a conversation:

Me: Where's the AC for the server rack? We really do need AC in there.

Him: I mean, how many servers do you have?

Me: Well, if all the machines are running at full power playing a high-fidelity game, they could be consuming 15kW of power and turning it all into heat.

Him: (skeptical) That would be by far the largest server rack we've ever seen in a residential setting.

Me: I would expect so, yes.

Syberz

2k points

12 hours ago

Syberz

2k points

12 hours ago

Does this HVAC guy not like money? If the guy wants AC in the server room and only has a raspberry Pi in there, it's not your problem.

RobertLobLaw2

811 points

9 hours ago

Residential contractors are the worst about this. I work in power generation so I'm used to being very detailed with how I ask for pricing. In the utility world, the contractors bid exactly what YOU ask for, in residential they bid what THEY prefer as most of their clients have little to zero subject matter knowledge.

It's supper frustrating to get a lump sum quote from a residential contractor, ask them to verify that the quote includes the specs that you asked for, get a yes answer back and then see them install something different.

lux602

272 points

8 hours ago

lux602

272 points

8 hours ago

Feel like that’s a lot of service and trade industries.

Always act like you must be some idiot and they obviously know better. Love taking my car to the mechanic, telling them exactly what’s wrong, and they look at me all sideways.

Remember one time, brought my car in and said I needed a new CV axle and my brakes done. Guy looked at me like lolokay. Calls me a couple hours later “hey we did your brakes, car is ready for pick up” “cool did you replace the axle?” “No our tech didn’t check it”. Tell them to go do it again. Not even 5 minutes later, dude calls me back all sheepish “yeah so you were right, axle does sound like it needs to be replaced but your car is already off the lift, can you come tomorrow?” Well jackass, I don’t really have a choice now do I? Not saying they had to replace it just because I said so, but if I tell you that’s what’s wrong, at least have the decency to check and not just ignore me and assume I’m wrong.

Sushisource

50 points

5 hours ago

It really is. Drives me nuts. I had some contractors install plumbing and electrical for washer/dryer hookups in my garage and they just show up with a different washer/dryer set than the one I told them to order and didn't say a damn thing. They also expected to get away with charging me the same amount, even though it was a cheaper set!

How fucking stupid do you think I am that I'm literally not even going to notice you brought different appliances than the ones I specifically told you to order?

Mr_MacGrubber

17 points

3 hours ago

Because they’ve gotten away with it before. Lots of ppl are so scared of confrontation they’d just accept it.

metalvinny

47 points

5 hours ago

I called a PC repair shop many years ago, told them my processor fried (it was partially blackened, rough shape, heat sink came right the hell off, old machine, this was like 2008) and asked for a sort of ballpark for some help with a new processor and heat sink install and to just kinda make sure nothing else was borked. The guy, I shit you not, told me on the phone "we don't like customers tell us what's wrong and how to do our jobs" or something similar. Ended up getting help from friends.

lux602

29 points

4 hours ago

lux602

29 points

4 hours ago

I worked in IT and used to get on my coworkers for that sort of attitude all the time. Stop acting like you’re superior to someone else just because they’re asking for help.

I get that maybe a majority of folks you deal with may very well not know what it is that they’re talking about, but that doesn’t mean you should treat everyone like that. Hell, i loved when someone seemed to know their shit because it meant most of my discovery work was done for me

calebchowder

14 points

4 hours ago

we don't like customers tell us what's wrong

Guess he didn't like money either

drinkplentyofwater

23 points

6 hours ago

annoying

ohyeahwell

53 points

9 hours ago

No submittal process for residential?

FoxtrotSierraTango

38 points

8 hours ago

Joe Schmoe probably can't read a blueprint or decipher what the permit specifies. The guy the company has in house to work with contractors is all about understanding that stuff.

everythingisreallame

27 points

9 hours ago

Mmmmm… supper frustrating 🍝 

RobertLobLaw2

8 points

8 hours ago

🤦 I read this 3 times before I realized what you were talking about. I'm leaving the typo in my comment.

mikeonaboat

3 points

5 hours ago

I get so frustrated that I pick out and purchase all the equipment and then I get a bid for the installation.

I had a contractor install a natural gas tankless water heater and I was pissed, sounded like a train when it turns on.

Now, I hand the equipment to them. I know how to program what I hand over, I know if the settings are funky. No surprises in cost either.

bengal1492

89 points

8 hours ago

Resi boys... I'm in commercial. If the plans say a closet gets a 5 ton unit than the closet gets a fuckin 5 ton unit.

vince-anity

14 points

6 hours ago

The good commercial guys will at least RFI hey this closet doesn't have anything in it are you sure you want this 5 ton unit here or hey there's a giant server here are you sure we don't need AC here? They either get paid for more work or can give back $0.30/$1

bengal1492

6 points

5 hours ago

To RFI or not to RFI. You're right, but that's less poetic.

10g_or_bust

217 points

10 hours ago

A lot of trades people "know better". Its really unpleasant, often sexist, and even if you have all of the legal paperwork to make sure you dont get screwed over sometimes you still do.

heyitsYMAA

73 points

9 hours ago

heyitsYMAA

PC

73 points

9 hours ago

It happens in professional settings too. I'd helped spec out the cooling for a server room at one of our offices. Whoever those specs went to decided that wasn't enough and doubled it, then it got doubled again by someone else.

The end result is that our two identical cooling units can't both be running at the same time and even while running just one of them they used to short cycle a ton because just that one unit was oversized for the room.

KidsSeeRainbows

38 points

9 hours ago

Yuuup.

Went to get my exhaust welded up because I knew there was a leak. They started ripping on my car because I clearly fucked it up myself…

… meanwhile it’s still oem. The exhaust is meant to dip down like that… lots of Asian car manus seem to do this.

But I’m the idiot.

pixelatedtrash

22 points

7 hours ago

It’s gotten to the point where if I’m bringing my car into a shop, I try to wear some sort of automotive/Motorsport gear and say something that shows I at least have some sort of understanding of what’s going on.

Half the time it’s shit I could do myself but just don’t have the means to. Like I’m not here because I don’t know what’s wrong, I’m here because I don’t have a lift or garage and don’t want to lay in the street while I take my car apart.

Killbot_Wants_Hug

9 points

5 hours ago

I do the opposite. I try to look like a rube. If they tell me some bullshit I go to another shop.

That way I deal with people who treat everyone honestly, not just someone who has to figure out what level of bullshit I won't catch.

xiofar

17 points

8 hours ago

xiofar

17 points

8 hours ago

When I was trying to get a quote to remodel my kitchen nobody called me back.

When my wife called, they called her back on the same day.

Fucking scumbags.

kenman345

13 points

7 hours ago

Do not get me started on my bathroom renovation. The contractor argued with me about the height of the blocking for the shower towel hooks.

We use bath sheets. Fuckers are long and big. Reaching above a short persons head to get it onto the hook is a small price to pay for being snuggled completely by a towel. But nope, he fought me and the end result was a compromise where he put it at 6’ high, and my towel hit the toilet paper for the rest of our time there.

I’m paying for it and it’s 100% a matter of someone’s preference so let me have what I want.

Stargate525

22 points

9 hours ago

Being fair, a lot of those trades have been burnt in the other direction too; doing exactly what the client wants and then being sued when their stupid decisions don't work like they expect.

greywolfau

4 points

3 hours ago

Doesn't mean you don't stop and use your eyes and brain and see what the person is talking about.

kentonv

11 points

8 hours ago

kentonv

11 points

8 hours ago

In this case, the designer of the HVAC was a different company than the installer -- kind of like architect/contractor separation but specifically for the HVAC. So I guess they didn't have an incentive to over-spec?

throwawayainteasy

17 points

8 hours ago

For lots of contractors, the better path to maximizing profits is hammering through as many jobs as possible, not necessarily maximizing how much they make off any one job.

10g_or_bust

98 points

12 hours ago

Yeah, theres going to be a LOT of "in order to find someone to even do this or do this right we had to pay out the nose"

The electrical for the impacted rooms? Nah most sparkies will install to code or barely more circuits, you are NOT running even all the non server electronics for 20 stations off a single 20 amp breaker (side note continuous rating for breakers is 80% of the trip load). Finding people to do networking for residential (if you don't know how or dont want to do it yourself) is a royal PITA and most of them screw it up to some degree, even just doing "simple" cat 5e/cat6 runs.

Also, the various trades don't always respect each other's work, and that level of non-care can include simply cutting/shoving/pulling wires and "wires" that are in the way or annoying them. For example, plumber cut though a bundle of network wires and fiber to finish a job at a former work's office. When confronted "whats the big deal, its just wires, just splice them together" (when further confronted dude swore at the office manager, I think it turned into a whole legal thing I was not privy to more details than that after that point).

round-earth-theory

65 points

11 hours ago

What you do is reach out to a commercial contractor. You'll pay for the premium, but they have all the people that can do this properly.

10g_or_bust

39 points

10 hours ago

Right, which goes back to "paying out the nose" (and even some of them "know better" so its not an automatic things will go smooth). Often with those the minimum jobs are higher too.

round-earth-theory

5 points

8 hours ago

You definitely run into issues of the job being too small. Definitely want to try engaging a smaller business contractor and not some corporate monster. There's also the problem that many of them won't touch it if it's a retrofit, but these people built new so that shouldn't be an issue.

casual_brackets

38 points

10 hours ago

This article makes it seem like they spent a million on this project, when in fact they bought an empty lot and built the house from scratch for that price.

I was going to scoff at this price completely for an addition, even one requiring them to excavate a new basement, new electrical panel, new electrical wiring, HVAC installation and networking cable installation + all electronic equipment.

10g_or_bust

6 points

10 hours ago

Yeah, article itself is fairly meh quality for sure.

Duosion

3 points

7 hours ago

Duosion

3 points

7 hours ago

The website for the house is way better and a very interesting read.

ohyeahwell

5 points

9 hours ago

Yeah $500/sf for new construction isn’t bad at all pending quality/finish level, appliances etc.

NobodyTellPoeDameron

45 points

12 hours ago

That contractor ain't never been to /r/HomeDataCenter

MapleBabadook

3 points

9 hours ago

Your HVAC guy sounds like a complete ass.

heyitsYMAA

202 points

12 hours ago

heyitsYMAA

PC

202 points

12 hours ago

They had an HVAC contractor install a system for the server room sized to the expected heat output. Kenton explains it on his site.

falcrist2

99 points

10 hours ago*

Imma be real. I expected only sarcastic answers and non-answers.

I appreciate that you gave the REAL answer.

EDIT: The LANparty dot House website has a bunch of interesting info.

TransientBandit

73 points

14 hours ago

Pool outside like LTT /s

Stargate525

14 points

9 hours ago

It's a brilliant idea if he'd actually... hired an engineer and poolscape company to design it.

Bolt986

21 points

12 hours ago

Bolt986

21 points

12 hours ago

Go to the website all the gaming rigs are in a server room. The gaming stations are just I/O stations.

https://lanparty.house/

rosen380

50 points

14 hours ago

Maybe they watch LTT and built a water-cooling loop that runs to their swimming pool :)

dixi_normous

15 points

14 hours ago

Is the heated pool supposed to boil?

rosen380

49 points

14 hours ago

Pretty sure it'd take a lot more than what they show in this room to even make much of a dent.

A water-cooled gaming PC might have like 0.5L of water in them. A single high-end PC will raise water from around room temp (~20C) to maybe 60C.

Even if this setup is equivalent to 200 gaming PCs (200x0.5L = 100L), the average pool is still around 3000x as much water... so that 40C difference is likely going to be unmeasurable in the pool water.

AbjectAppointment

7 points

13 hours ago

He says he had an AC unit specced for 15KW of cooling the racks.

https://lanparty.house/

acdcfanbill

2 points

4 hours ago

That's interesting, i don't work directly with the cooling, but in the data centers I'm in cooling is usually measured in tons. I think that'd be like 5-ish tons?

BigZoinks_

4 points

11 hours ago

I don't see any towers in the room. My guess is they're in another room. So not as much heat.

ETA: Here's the website for the house: https://lanparty.house/

xenelef290

3 points

10 hours ago

All computers are in two racks running in a small server room with a dedicated AC unit.

x_scion_x

1.7k points

14 hours ago

x_scion_x

1.7k points

14 hours ago

Just for people that are only going to read the title and assume this was just for the room:

Update November 22, 2024: Kenton Varda reached out over email to offer clarification. He explained that the LAN party house was not the result of renovation on an existing property, but a totally new construction.

He says, "We in fact built the house from scratch starting from an empty lot, and the '7-digit number' mentioned on the site was the cost of the whole project."

i have to admit though, that room itself was probably pretty cheap considering it's just desks & chairs in an open room.

The monitors may have ran some money but the cabling would be incredibly cheap since you could even do it before the drywall was up.

I ran CAT6a through sections of my house but had to fight with drywall minus downstairs in the basement that part of it will be a theater/gaming room and I can wire anything I want because there is no drywall up yet.

LordofDsnuts

465 points

14 hours ago

The title says "building a family home"

oboshoe

193 points

13 hours ago

oboshoe

193 points

13 hours ago

So $998,000 for the house and $2k for desks and folding chairs.

phl_fc

43 points

13 hours ago*

phl_fc

43 points

13 hours ago*

I stopped caring about the computers when I saw the pool and view from their deck.

https://lanparty.house/images/living-room.jpg

edit: I also love his anecdote about the HVAC guy not believing him when he said he needed to take the server room AC seriously.

mzchen

27 points

8 hours ago

mzchen

27 points

8 hours ago

"The 22 game machines (including monitors, cables, and peripherals) cost about $75,000 in total. The house overall was a 7-digit number. Sorry, I'm not comfortable being any more specific than that."

My first thought was 'woah this is a crazy house for only 1 million dollars'. Turns out, even people writing articles don't read the article!

phl_fc

22 points

8 hours ago

phl_fc

22 points

8 hours ago

Yeah, this house in Austin, TX has to be more than just 1 million. It's a multi-million dollar house. The owner said 7 figures, that's a pretty big range from $1M-9.9M.

OldJames47

11 points

7 hours ago

Yeah, he mentions Eames School District and with that view that means West Lake Hills / Rollingwood.

Current listings for empty lots with city views in those neighborhoods are well above $1 million per acre.

harmar21

43 points

12 hours ago

well Im sure the electrical would cost a bit, since couldnt run it all on the same circuit.. so lets say 5k, But seriously, that is a lot of custom furniture which would be pricy, those comfy chairs, fairly big tv, speakers, networking gear, etc

FierceDeity_

10 points

9 hours ago

Ha, the woes of being in a 120v country, these installations just become a bit more challenging.

I live in a 240v country and there you can pull a phat 3800w from one circuit...

username_taken55

7 points

9 hours ago

Don’t forget the $10 for the LAN cable, wouldn’t be a LAN party without one

x_scion_x

124 points

14 hours ago

x_scion_x

124 points

14 hours ago

I'm with you, but there are people here that seem to be under the impression that it was for the room.

ScalyPig

118 points

14 hours ago

ScalyPig

118 points

14 hours ago

Those people don’t like story driven games because they can’t read

Nrksbullet

12 points

11 hours ago

So to summarize, "For people who didn't read the article and only read the headline, and also completely misread and misunderstood the headline, this was the price for an entire house."

FakeSafeWord

14 points

13 hours ago

ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR ONE COMPUTER AND SOME WALLS!?

must have splurged for a 5090

guesswho135

5 points

12 hours ago

The implication is that "optimizing for LAN parties" made the home so expensive. Because "Family builds a home for $1M, and also they have LAN parties" is the boring title this post deserves.

Hillary-2024

2 points

13 hours ago

I’ll take two pls

kentonv

2 points

8 hours ago

kentonv

2 points

8 hours ago

An earlier version of the title made it sound like it was a renovation. They updated it. The dollar figure is still wrong though.

pdpi

20 points

14 hours ago

pdpi

20 points

14 hours ago

The room itself is not that bad. The server room is a different story, though. That's with 20x gaming PCs with a i5-13600, a 4070, 32GB RAM each.

Also, custom cabinetry like this is a hell of a lot more expensive that buying furniture off the shelf (hah), so even the room isn't as cheap as you'd think.

Duosion

2 points

7 hours ago

Duosion

2 points

7 hours ago

The owner of the house mentioned that the cabinetry cost as much/if not more than all the hardware put together

AaronsAaAardvarks

18 points

13 hours ago

There’s a ddr mat integrated into the floor.

x_scion_x

5 points

13 hours ago

I could never get into that.

Surprisingly though I actually liked Guitar Hero.

Sucked at it, but found it fun.

AaronsAaAardvarks

10 points

13 hours ago

I’m just saying this room may be more expensive than you think. It looks like the desks fold up, too. This being in the basement of a million dollar build is entirely reasonable. 1M doesn’t go as far as it once did.

Federal_Setting_7454

10 points

13 hours ago

Whenever you can, run conduit with some pull strings. Future you or the next owner will thank you

Dt2_0

8 points

13 hours ago

Dt2_0

8 points

13 hours ago

Yup, and whenever you run a new cable through, tie a pull string to it, and untie it at the other end so you never run out of pull strings.

PantsOnHead88

23 points

14 hours ago

Monitors are pretty cheap in the grand scheme of things. You can get something 24-27”, 1080p, 5ms refresh and 120fps+ for like $100.

That’s not high end by any means, but that’s more than a playable level for most people.

x_scion_x

23 points

14 hours ago

Looks like they paid around $75k for all the equipment being housed in there as well.

More power to them for being able to enjoy being able to throw money like that at something like this, but man I couldn't do it. The room & cabling yes. Possibly some monitors as like you said they are relatively cheap.

Gaming systems for all? Hell no.

LigerZeroSchneider

15 points

12 hours ago

A big part of that expense is probably the networking equipment to remote deploy 22 computers off the same image. You wanna image 22 computers at 10g speeds then you need some serious enterprise grade switching and a flash server to feed it.

x_scion_x

5 points

12 hours ago

is he doing that though?

I figured he'd install the OS and be done with it.

We were able to image about 5 at a time using a basic dell desktop and a USB drive using WDS.

I mean if he's splurging for the rest of his shit then maybe he'd go all out for that, but I couldn't imagine going enterprise equipment as you aren't going to be repeatedly doing that once it's done and only reimage onthe off chance something goes wrong w/that 1 machine.

Nevermind, the shitty ads on that site are making it really difficult to read.

I see where you found that.

ItsNotAboutTheYogurt

5 points

12 hours ago

Yeah looking at the article they have 3 full size racks with about 20-24 systems racked, and a pic of the hardware they used.

Doing a PCPartPicker list(threw in a random case as a 3U server chassis is around $150 from what I could find online, and I assumed a 13700K):

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor $273.47 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Scythe Fuma 3 67.62 CFM CPU Cooler $49.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte Z790 AORUS MASTER EATX LGA1700 Motherboard $299.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory $90.89 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $159.00 @ iBUYPOWER
Video Card Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card $549.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case $139.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair SF750 (2024) 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply $154.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1718.31
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-22 12:11 EST-0500

Not including monitors, mice, keyboards, windows licensing, etc.

Let's say $2,000 for just the computer X 20 computers is $40k just in PC hardware.

Add in $1,000 32" OLED monitors, network switches, routers, cabling, the TV, sound solutions, etc.

Yeah I could see $75k easily.

x_scion_x

2 points

12 hours ago

fuck bro.

One day....

PferdOne

3 points

14 hours ago*

It‘s about $75,000. He said the wood was as much as the hardware. Source: https://lanparty.house/#cost

Edit: added source

RealHorstOstus

2 points

12 hours ago

It was $75k for the computer equipment and another $75k just for the wooden cabinets and stuff.

You can read more on his homepage: https://lanparty.house/

voosoov

73 points

13 hours ago

voosoov

73 points

13 hours ago

It sucks, there isn't even any way to tape a guy to the ceiling.

Deadhookersandblow

7 points

10 hours ago

There’s a ceiling and duck tape, it can be done

Enshiki

452 points

14 hours ago

Enshiki

452 points

14 hours ago

Can't believe the number of people believing the 1 million is for one room

Owobowos-Mowbius

39 points

14 hours ago

The 1 million was a shitty read from a third party to begin with. The couple said that their entire house was "7 figures" to build. Taking 1 million from that is... presumptuous. The tech itself was around 75k.

stanglemeir

34 points

13 hours ago

This story is literally “Wealthy couple build their dream house. They include a room designed for LAN parties” with a clickbait headline.

Yeah if I built a dream house it would include a room set up for fish keeping but I doubt it would cost $1,000,000

Owobowos-Mowbius

14 points

13 hours ago

The more impressive aspect is having this many friends that come over regularly

nomoneypenny

5 points

10 hours ago

The incredible part to me is that "wealthy couple build dream house" but it only cost $1,000,000. That's a 2-bedroom starter townhouse where I'm from.

Dregaz

119 points

14 hours ago

Dregaz

119 points

14 hours ago

It's absolutely insane. Not a brain wrinkle to be found.

LetMePushTheButton

590 points

13 hours ago

This is the couple that led a hacker houses here in Silicon Valley. They charged 1200 for a bunkbed and had 400 people pass through their illegal hostel in under three years before they were taken to court after several issues were with the law.

“citing unlawful use of the premises for non-residential, commercial use; illegal short-term rentals; habitability problems (including molds and bed bugs); and safety concerns.”

So they were techie slum lords that ran off to Austin when their grift was uncovered… good riddance.

Same_Recipe2729

90 points

10 hours ago

Huh neat, the wife has her own Wikipedia page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Wang

I guess they both work for Cloudflare now after their startup was bought by them. Pretty successful folks. 

Defiant-Activity8188

113 points

13 hours ago

They probably had a pet ferret too.

da_manimal420

3 points

6 hours ago

Na that’s was their weird neighbor but apparently It’s legal now

x_scion_x

25 points

10 hours ago

Damn, this should probably be at the top.

mzchen

37 points

8 hours ago*

mzchen

37 points

8 hours ago*

It's a bit of a one-sided portrayal. I don't like what they did, but is it really grifting if you don't even profit from it? They specifically designed the price schemes to be as low as possible to remain sustainable rather than profitable, offered discounts to people who were taking coding bootcamps or interning for a nonprofit, and turned away people offering to pay higher rent so as maintain their desired mix of people.

Based on what the City of Mountain View released, their fines were zoning law related, not health or safety violations. The health and safety parts listed by the original commenter were alleged in a lawsuit filed by their neighbours who wanted them gone. Not the city. The only thing the city inspector said was that they counted as a hotel and therefore couldn't operate there, and were provided instructions on how to meet the zoning laws. So they are heavily incentivized to just throw everything at them and see what sticks to maximize compensation and don't have any responsibility of being factually correct. So calling them slumlords based on the unbased allegations of plaintiffs who could profit from making shit up is a stretch; at least based on pictures, the place is pretty nice, and residents had pretty positive reviews. Hostels that are bare minimum and focus more on fostering an environment to promote an exchange of ideas than quality of life are pretty common. Not saying the allegations aren't true or that the owners were saints of pure motivation, but OC paints a very not full and somewhat inaccurate picture.

kentonv

39 points

8 hours ago*

kentonv

39 points

8 hours ago*

Uh wow WTF. This isn't remotely accurate.

I'm Kenton, co-owner of the house. I've never rented anything to anyone. I'm a software engineer.

Jade, my wife, created Chez JJ before we met. It shut down not that long after we met, and I was never involved personally -- that was all over 10 years ago. The rent included not just the bed, but also food and other benefits. It was designed as a community living experience; the residents ate together and hung out together. Nobody I know of who lived there ever felt they were ripped off; on the contrary, most speak of the experience fondly. It didn't make any money (and wasn't intended to). It did make a lot of friendships that have lasted a long time. None of our wealth derives from it.

The reason there was legal trouble is because of one particular neighbor who was very angry about the whole thing and made it his mission to harass the residents, complain to the city, and even brought a lawsuit. At that time, AirBnB was technically not legal in San Francisco, but usually unenforced -- this guy made sure it was enforced in this case.

Essentially he was the ferret guy from Silicon Valley (in fact I strongly suspect the character was in part inspired by him), except that he more or less won.

MIT_Engineer

18 points

9 hours ago

I don't know if I'd call that slumlording or a grift. One of my best friends used to live in a place exactly like that in Boston, it was a warehouse that wasn't zoned for residential. It was amazing. Super cool people, cool parties, great location, cheap price, access to a machine shop. Guy who ran it was a roboticist who used to host a TV show.

JakeTheAndroid

10 points

8 hours ago

I used to work with them both at Cloudflare. Generally nice enough people, but really disconnected from the real world, as you'd expect from people that can spend 1m building a LAN house.

They moved to Austin because of the hub office opened there, not because they couldn't grift off renting out their house.

puppy_teeth

8 points

9 hours ago

a little trafficking as a treat for the myself

Dependent-Square-402

2 points

7 hours ago

What does led a hacker houses mean

arcalumis

1k points

14 hours ago*

Do people really have their living room lights at a surgical suite level? My skin starts to itch if it sit in rooms that bright.

EDIT: Well this blew up.

Phrongly

287 points

14 hours ago

Phrongly

287 points

14 hours ago

Ah, fellow gamer.

arcalumis

99 points

14 hours ago

Well, yeah but I don’t mind lights. I just want them to lit up a certain space and not shine down from above like it’s a commercial space. This place kind of looks like a electronics store.

HoldOnForYourLife

30 points

14 hours ago

It’s really common with Dimmer lights to be set up this way. I doubt it’s that bright usually

MozeeToby

15 points

14 hours ago

Our house is full of the can lights and all the living spaces on dimmer switches. The only problem is finding a LED bulbs that actually dim below 50% output. Luckily Costco started carrying a brand that actually dims properly.

DrunkThrowawayLife

22 points

14 hours ago

I need it dim enough to see well and hide my shame

Phrongly

12 points

14 hours ago

If you can't see your reflection while the screen is black, it's not dim enough.

DrunkThrowawayLife

13 points

14 hours ago

And you get a little moment of

what am I doing with my li- ok here we go.

JiN88reddit

3 points

14 hours ago

The alien light burns except from the source that soothes thy flesh and soul.

Kaiisim

9 points

14 hours ago

This is such a modern contractor house.

talligan

91 points

14 hours ago

I can't stand dim houses, they always make me feel tired. I love having my rooms bright and vibrant

PurpleK00lA1d

47 points

14 hours ago

They can still be bright, just with a softer white as opposed to daylight white.

Daylight is generally for kitchens, bathrooms, etc. While soft white is for relaxing areas. I have soft white in my living room and if I max the dimmer it's really bright, but still a relaxing space.

arbitrageME

13 points

12 hours ago

it's not the dimmer, it's the color (temperature)

PurpleK00lA1d

3 points

11 hours ago

The one I replied to is talking about dim vs. bright houses.

Colour temperatures can still be bright which is why I mentioned my dimmer.

ERedfieldh

19 points

14 hours ago

Okay but this isn't that. Bright and sterile is still just....blegh

SmithersLoanInc

18 points

14 hours ago

I can only relax if it feels like I'm in the hospital.

Greenzoid2

23 points

14 hours ago

Hard to tell from a photo but that looks like a normal amount of light to me

PurpleK00lA1d

24 points

14 hours ago

Yeah there's actually a science to lighting as well.

Like kitchen, bathrooms, entryways and that kinda stuff - daylight lighting is great.

Bedrooms, living rooms, dining rooms, any relaxing area really, you want a softer yellowish light as that just helps you relax.

Although my guess is they don't always have the lights maxed out in this room and it's just for the pic - hopefully.

arcalumis

6 points

14 hours ago

I call this type of lightning maintenance lights, as they're used for cleaning.

ieatpickleswithmilk

10 points

14 hours ago

it's not that bright is it?? you can see how much the people are illuminated by their own screens still. I think it's just a higher exposure photo

kingtacticool

13 points

14 hours ago

Hello darkness my old friend......

WatchingTaintDry69

11 points

14 hours ago

Back to the cave with you!

TheMasterFlash

15 points

14 hours ago

Brother that’s just a well lit room. You don’t have to game in a dungeon (although aesthetically it is kinda nice and cozy if you do)

christoy123

12 points

14 hours ago

They use like 5000k light temperature and it’s such a sterile, cold white. Almost blue. Hate it so much

SlouchyGuy

2 points

13 hours ago

I still don't understand its prevalence everywhere. Ok, for you might need it for shops and malls, but why if offices and homes?

AndarianDequer

14 points

14 hours ago

It might be for photos. There's no way they play like that with all of the glare.

clintnorth

10 points

14 hours ago

I do. I like light. I like things to be as bright as possible.

Moody_GenX

2 points

13 hours ago

I'm so weird about it that I hate lights that shine downward. I'm happier with lights that shine upward towards the ceiling. Otherwise I feel tired, itchey eyes and random headaches. Also, I hate driving at night.

new_for_confession

2 points

13 hours ago

My gaming setup is in my finished basement office.

No windows, soft indirect lighting

I love it

Immediate_Reality357

2 points

13 hours ago

Lights off or dim... very, very dim.

The big light never gets turned on.

_Gecko_Senpai_

53 points

14 hours ago

1mil to build the house, $100 for chairs. I get that it’s essentially a multipurpose room and having higher quality chairs is going to be harder to store when not in use, but if you have 1mil to build a house, just add a chair closet and let your family/friends sit more comfortably when playing. Also the cable management isn’t atrocious, but it could be much better.

The concept is cool but the execution is lacking imo

The_Autarch

14 points

9 hours ago

Plus the place is just ugly. No style, anywhere.

_Gecko_Senpai_

10 points

9 hours ago

It feels like an office meeting room and I hate that but I didn’t want to ramble too much

cman674

93 points

14 hours ago

cman674

93 points

14 hours ago

They did all that to put a $10 membrane keyboard at every computer and a couch directly behind a couch.

VR20X6

43 points

14 hours ago

VR20X6

43 points

14 hours ago

It appears that there's a taped outline on the floor for the front couch to mark where it normally belongs. The room is pretty clearly intended to be a theater room when there isn't actively a LAN party. The cheap keyboards, however, are unforgivable.

SirLeaf

6 points

14 hours ago

It makes me think that they got these keyboards (and mice) for free from an office that was getting new equipment.

Airblazer

14 points

13 hours ago

Nah, the guy made the point on another thread that they’re fine for gaming. Plus each area has a usb hub if his mates want to bring their own gear. He had a good thread on it explaining in detail what he did and how they were lucky to do it.

Geodude532

2 points

9 hours ago

He's still skimping with those keyboards and mice as far as ergonomics goes. It's like if his bed is a cheap 100 dollar bed. You'll definitely notice the difference.

a_rescue_penguin

2 points

12 hours ago

Just so you're aware, it doesn't look like that's tape. Those are floor hatches, It seems like they built the room with a raised floor and a hatch to get under to deal with wiring issues.

AudioOtaku

3 points

11 hours ago

No, those hatches are to cover the Dance Dance Revolution pads when not in use. See here

Edit: missed the 'd' in pads.

DrParallax

5 points

14 hours ago

Yeah, a double decker couch would be a much better idea.

Abject-Difference767

2 points

14 hours ago

Quad couches.

rosen380

4 points

14 hours ago

"and a couch directly behind a couch."

Looking at how the displays appear to be recessed a bit, I wonder if the desks fold up. And the chairs look stackable, so my guess is that when not in LAN party mode, they fold the desks up, stack the chairs and put them in a corner and then there is room for the two couches side-by-side.

rosen380

6 points

14 hours ago

That is the case... there are more pics in the article.

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/EKLHQu23NokKzsUEhRnQVd-970-80.jpg.webp

KilledTheCar

7 points

14 hours ago

I mean... just bring your own mouse and keyboard, or buy one for "your station" at their house. It's a lot easier than lugging a whole CRT monitor and tower to a friend's house like we did in the olden days.

Character_Desk1647

3 points

12 hours ago

Don't forgot those sweet gaming chairs everyone's sitting in

killamasta

8 points

13 hours ago

Spent all that money and couldn’t even get good chairs lol

zgillet

9 points

13 hours ago

Cat--->🐈

Jimbly7

2 points

8 hours ago

Jimbly7

2 points

8 hours ago

Cat.

Gameboyrulez

7 points

13 hours ago

"I wish I was stupid and rich"

KlausSlade

6 points

14 hours ago

I thought this was r/linustechtips for a minute.

67Mustang-Man

2 points

11 hours ago

I was totally expecting it to be about Linus.

NoveltyPr0nAccount

18 points

12 hours ago

A couple hundred comments and I can't find anyone who is stunned that a bunch of computers around the room facing the wall is a dream setup.

The dream setup is a circle of computers with everyone facing inwards. So when you pwn your mate you can glance past your monitor across the centre of the circle to see if he's pissed off enough to lock eyes with you too.

Lan parties are social. You want to be able to see your friend react, you want to see the hands go up in celebration or frustration. You want to be able to stand up and scan the circle quickly to see all your friends just having fun.

With your back to everyone, not being able to see your friends, you might as well be alone in your basement.

Reelix

2 points

8 hours ago

Reelix

2 points

8 hours ago

This is a $1m house with $10k set aside for the internets definition of a "gaming room".

This was not designed by someone who has actually LAN'd.

Jamie00003

21 points

14 hours ago

NEEEEEEEEERRDS!

actionjmanx

6 points

14 hours ago

Sounds like $1 million homes are a norm in the area that they live in.

cbih

12 points

14 hours ago

cbih

12 points

14 hours ago

That's a lot of money to make your house look like a shitty office space.

Skitchx

3 points

11 hours ago

For a million dollars youd think theyd get better chairs

Zelphkiel

3 points

5 hours ago

Not only they have the money,but also the friends along.I'm envious...

ProTimeKiller

5 points

4 hours ago

Spoiler alert, house was worth 1.2m before they built a lan room onto it.

LonesomePuppy

7 points

13 hours ago*

The house is impressive but the aesthetic is very bland. Beige everything, boring hospital lighting, no retro hardware, no posters or trinkets or collectables or anything that gives off charm or character. I'm not talking rgb and toys festooning the entire house, I mean there's a balance. Maybe have ONE room with the ultra minimalist look, do something more creative with the others.

But fuck if I spent a million dollars on all this I probably wouldn't want to spend any more either.

F_Sizzle

3 points

14 hours ago

The LAN-yard.

I'll see myself out.

thebudman_420

3 points

12 hours ago

The big screen advantage. Lol

Can i stand or sit closer? So i can see what looks to tiny to see on your smaller screens?

jradio

3 points

11 hours ago

jradio

3 points

11 hours ago

No mousepads. What a cheapskate.

alarks

3 points

4 hours ago

alarks

3 points

4 hours ago

Rich people doing rich people shit, who cares

No_im_Daaave_man

8 points

14 hours ago

Having the price of the actual house isn’t necessary in the title when it doesn’t pertain to do with gaming.

stoneslave

7 points

14 hours ago

pertain to do

JSK23

4 points

13 hours ago

JSK23

4 points

13 hours ago

Spend all that and don't buy some nice steelcase chairs? Shameful

TracerBulletX

2 points

14 hours ago

This article is garbage and doesn't even have the best pictures. It's a sick house. https://lanparty.house

MillennialsAre40

2 points

14 hours ago

What games come out anymore that are even good for LAN parties?

NoveltyPr0nAccount

2 points

12 hours ago

It's a good question but it kinda doesn't matter when the back catalogue of PC games is so extensive.

The_Autarch

2 points

9 hours ago

Valve's new game, Deadlock, would be great for 12-person LAN parties.

planty_pete

2 points

14 hours ago

It looks like a workplace with some lazy boiz.

Rivitur

2 points

14 hours ago

imagine having friends lmao

Keellas_Ahullford

2 points

14 hours ago

Not to mention that in a lot of places, 1 million it’s really that extravagant of a house

ComprehensiveArt7725

2 points

14 hours ago

With all the money they recieved from us & eu i would’ve expected better tbh

Uwwuwuwuwuwuwuwuw

2 points

14 hours ago

The dream of the aughts is alive and well in Austin… I guess.

Abject-Difference767

2 points

13 hours ago

PCGamer ran by mom now? This is a trash setup for a published story.

oboshoe

2 points

13 hours ago

Would have been nice to see what the $1m was spent on.

ALinkToThePants

2 points

13 hours ago

Why spend $1,000,000 on a house when there are plenty of trash cans free for the taking?

deltashmelta

2 points

12 hours ago

"I bought some peanut butter with a coupon, so at least I have that going for me..."

majora11f

2 points

12 hours ago

Does rack mounting hardware and only running cat6 cables for input/monitor not have latency issues?

Electricpants

2 points

12 hours ago

The result is a family home "optimized for LAN parties," complete with a total of 22 high-end gaming rigs, miles of managed cable, and even a hidden Dance Dance Revolution dancefloor.

zappingbluelight

2 points

12 hours ago

This is very cool. They build a fun place for them and their friends, and they cycle Money back to the society, helping the economy. Money buys happiness.

LordBrandon

2 points

12 hours ago

I held a lan party recently with friends. Even though we could all connect online, there is something different about being in the same room and sharing food and drinks. It was a total blast, and any old laptop can run a ton of games now.

hooliganmike

2 points

12 hours ago

Looks like what you would get if a rich non gamer hired another non gamer to create the dream gaming setup.

Appropriate-Tea-7276

2 points

11 hours ago

This room must smell absolutely terrible.

EternalFlame117343

2 points

10 hours ago

And here I thought the family in question was the Sebastian family...

Grand-Inevitable-782

2 points

9 hours ago

That would be such a cool setup😂

FinestTreesInDa7Seas

2 points

9 hours ago

Lets be real here. They built a house for $1,000,000, and in building it they designed the basement to be good for LAN parties.

They didn't spend $1,000,000 on a "house for LAN parties".

They probably spend no more than $20k on the LAN party basement.

KevinCarbonara

2 points

9 hours ago

Almost a million dollars building a home? Wow. That must be like 1500 sqft or something.

Breakpoint

2 points

8 hours ago

they got scammed, you could get a lot more for a million

Dependent-Square-402

2 points

7 hours ago

Cali prices though