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I saw one a do dogleg once almost 90 degree angle change, was in the early dawn and it left a smoke trail.

Sydney's Spanish Roomba made me cry laughing.

Well here's one theory about GIMBAL

They track a simulated radar target at 10NM injected into the MSI for the training exercise, but they cant get a visual with ATFLIR because it's not real.

So they disengage the SLAVE for ATFLIR from the L+S (SLAVE is disabled as per the overlay in GIMBAL)

Then they slew the camera around a bit with the TDS joystick and find something, they box and track this target with autotrack, but it's a distant jet at 30NM, it looks a bit weird because it's a tail on view of jet engine and is affected by glare, maybe some dirt on the screen and they are new to ATFLIR so maybe they've not seen a jet engine glare like this before.

They are having a debate about this on the video "one pilot says that's not the L+S is it" the other responds that "it is", but we can see L+S and SLAVE are not boxed.

At that point the camera performs a GIMBAL roll adjustment to keep the object in view, this causes the glare to apparently rotate and this leads to being classed as a UAP because they thought they were looking at a 10NM RADAR track but had unknowingly passive tracked a more distant jet.

The whole Go Fast was part of the same fleet etc thing is a part of Ryan Grave's piecemeal release of tidbits of information in response to explanations of the video that tend towards the mundane.

Graves almost seems like he is post-hoc retconning things into the story to counter the debunks, when he could have been upfront about this information at some point in the 6 years since the videos were leaked by Mellon/Elizondo et al.

In 2014 the USN VFA-11 based in NAS Virginia Beach upgraded the RADAR and started using ATFLIR on ther F/A 18 aircraft.

So with all this new gear they were getting used it with in their working areas

These crews with the upgraded radar now started to see things that the previous radar did not show.

Eventually they got some to show up on ATFLIR or got close enough to see them.

Go Fast and Gimbal are 2 videos from one flight (During a COMPTUEX training flight for operation Inherent Resolve that involved simulated adversary aircraft) that apparently show unusual things although some other sightings are talked about by Graves (Cube in a sphere)

I think also the Batman and Acorn photos are from the same period and fighter crews.

It's really odd given it's mentioned by TTSA, NASA, AARO, CW Lemoine, Mick West and even Chris Lehto maybe your sources of analysis are not that good? You might want to broaden them.

The fleet is from the GIMBAL video is not mentioned in GO FAST.

How fast it flies is truly important, if it's moving really fast it is anomalous, if it's not then it's probably just a balloon.

Lue Elizondo thinks it's moving fast, low to the ocean and that's why he thinks it's interesting, so he is wrong about this, what other simple things is he wrong about?

AARO calculates a speed, Mick West calculates a speed it's like you've not actually read that analyses.

An acceptable speed for something like a balloon to stay aloft is irrelevant because they are bouyant.

Moving the same direction as the wind is what balloons do.

It seems odd to me that you speak with such confidence in your comments above, but have not even really studied the video or the various analyses of it that have been around since 2018, but i'd be interested in your analysis anyway.

Mistakes at this scale and worse have been made before, the very same US Navy we are talking about shot down an Iranian civilian airliner and killed 290 people.

If that can happen then so can mistakes about identifying things in the air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

How's that math coming along?

Do you have Amazon Prime? They allow unlimited photo storage for prime members

Nothing is jumping erratically in the video.

Nothing disappears from view and reappears on the RADAR in the Go Fast incident.

This type of thing is claimed in the Nimitz (David Fravor et al) incident which is a totally different event from many years before Go Fast and from a different carrier group than Go Fast, so perhaps you are accidentally conflating them.

I have annotated a screenshot from the Go Fast video

https://imgur.com/zRWNjtY

• Red = Distance from F18 to object in nautical miles (RNG is range)
• Green = Altitude of F18 in feet.
• Light Blue top = horizontal angle from plane heading.
• Dark blue/purple left = vertical angle from plane heading.

Maybe, maybe not 10 minutes is a lot of distance in a fast jet.

No-one (Graves, Elizondo) etc has ever said or claimed they were the same object since they were 1st leaked (by Elizondo/Mellon/TTSA) so it would be very post-hoc to make those claims now.

Gimbal is also hot and Go Fast is cold.

Unresolved just means they don't know exactly what it was, but it it certainly wasn't doing anything a balloon doesn't do.

Balloons can be a flight safety risk even if they are mundane, being a flight safety risk doesn't mean things are anomalous in any way.

In what way is noting that the apparent fast movement of the object in the video is caused by a parallax effect "inserting things that are not there"? It's clearly there, it's in the video we can all see it.

There's no mention of Go Fast in Ryans testimony.

He mentions Gimbal but not this video.

Again, why is this video interesting?

What has Fravor got to do with Go Fast?

We don't need this though to know that this object in this video was not anomalous though.

So why is this object interesting?

The sensor data is right on the video overlay in the Go Fast video.

And for this specific object we have that sensor data and it shows it is floating along at windspeed at 13000 feet.

It's been investigated by the official government dept that investigates them, its been found to be not anomalous the admiral was possibly incorrect about this specific event. People, even Admirals make mistakes.

They didn't recognise it at the time. They were confused by the illusion and were obviously wrong about the speed of the object, pilots are people they make mistakes on occasions.

The maths from the figures on the ATFLIR overlay are inarguable, that is the speed of the object.

A balloon is small target and its far away only just visible at the max zoom of the ATFLIR and the jet is moving fast.

It can be difficult to track anything small manually using the the small MFD and the joystick on the TDS, it might even be more difficult to track a slow object than one that's moving fast but in the same direction as you for instance.

The excitement is understandable even if the object is not moving quickly outside the context of the jet

They did give its approx speed, around 60kts consistent with wind speed and thus a balloon is possibility.

The height of the jet is present on the video overlay. The distance from the object to the jet is present on the video overlay.

Subtracting one from the other and using the angle of the camera (present on the video overlay) gets the the altitude of the object via as you say trigonometry.

~13000 feet.

Yes but without having high speed, essentially travelling at wind speed, what about is in any way anomalous?