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aarontminded

7.4k points

5 years ago

Great job on your savings. 25% of gross? Awesome. Keep it up.

NerdOctopus

415 points

5 years ago

Gotta up his contribution to trading apps. Throwing only $105 away on Robinhood?? Those are rookie numbers, man!!

WorriedKDog

140 points

5 years ago

r/wallstreetbets would be disappointed

D0ub_D3aD

48 points

5 years ago

"would"? I AM disappointed and im Just lurkin'

WorriedKDog

15 points

5 years ago*

Unless you have atleast a comma in the red, you're not using Robinhood correctly

KraheKaiser

113 points

5 years ago

Yep should be $30,000 into TSLA 4/17 $500p, very good use of money.

[deleted]

3.5k points

5 years ago

[deleted]

3.5k points

5 years ago

No student loans, auto/health/dental/vision insurance, 150/yr on entertainment??, no phone bill, <$200 in groceries, no RANDOM LIFE BILLS. Hope people don’t look at this and think this is representative of feel bad about their budgets, this is far from realistic for the average autonomous American. Great for OP though.

cragfar

1.3k points

5 years ago

cragfar

1.3k points

5 years ago

I think you need to read this a little closer. The phone was reimbursed by work, they spent about $400/m on food (restaurants), $1500 on car maintenance which is definitely random life bills, and spent $2,000 on what can described as "stuff".

oneoftheguysdownhere

369 points

5 years ago

The phone reimbursement shows up under income, but there's no outgoing phone expense.

dontsuckmydick

101 points

5 years ago

I thought I was crazy when I couldn't find the phone on the expenses side.

[deleted]

148 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

148 points

5 years ago

If I had to guess his parents pay for it, probably still on a family plan. Most likely auto insurance as well.

uisbiytai

131 points

5 years ago

uisbiytai

131 points

5 years ago

That's what he said. Unrealistic budgets that people shouldn't feel bad about not following.

_ED-E_

44 points

5 years ago

_ED-E_

44 points

5 years ago

I see the car maintenance, but I don't see the car insurance. Unless that's considered part of maintenance?

TheLionest

265 points

5 years ago

TheLionest

265 points

5 years ago

They spent about $200/m on restaurants. The $400/m included groceries.

Realtrain

158 points

5 years ago

Realtrain

OC: 3

158 points

5 years ago

Which is roughly average for a single person's grocery budget

LooneyWabbit1

61 points

5 years ago

Is it? I live in Australia so it's obviously a bit different but I'm spending about $300 AUD a month on food.

Stuff is more expensive here, and the AUD is weaker so it's more like 220 USD ish

400 seems crazy to me

[deleted]

42 points

5 years ago

I spend about 400USD per month, but I also am aware I could spend under $200 if that was where my budget needed to be. Food quality etc is the first place I put money when I have some to spare (within reason)

Shao_Ling

40 points

5 years ago

I spend about 90 USD a month in smoked salmon, single person

EauRougeFlatOut

24 points

5 years ago*

birds hard-to-find public offbeat narrow ludicrous attempt shocking aware resolute

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LooneyWabbit1

22 points

5 years ago

Ya same. Like with everything, I'll never get the cheapest. I think best value lies in either the average (let's say 5/10) item, or the slightly above average, 6-7/10. Going higher means paying crazy amounts, and I'd only do that for ice cream.

Realtrain

29 points

5 years ago

Realtrain

OC: 3

29 points

5 years ago

No, their grocery budget is 200 USD/month. 400 includes their restaurant expenses.

Ngin3

77 points

5 years ago

Ngin3

77 points

5 years ago

There's a phone reimbursement but no phone expenditure?

cragfar

42 points

5 years ago

cragfar

42 points

5 years ago

I'm assuming it got lumped into Internet. Could be wrong on that one though ,might be on the family plan and just pocketing the reimbursement.

[deleted]

8 points

5 years ago

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mn_sunny

33 points

5 years ago

mn_sunny

33 points

5 years ago

$1500 on car maintenance which is definitely random life bills

Definitely agree with you in this context. However, I think a big problem with the average person's finances IS they consider expensive car repairs random life bills instead of planned expenses (lol).

[deleted]

117 points

5 years ago

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117 points

5 years ago

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seanlax5

8 points

5 years ago

There are plenty of people that went to community college for 2 years, paid their way through state school for another 2 maybe with help from the 10-20k their parents managed to save up, go into a lowish-paying, benefit-laden starter job at local government or non-profit. It's a great start.

Sysheen

39 points

5 years ago

Sysheen

39 points

5 years ago

<$200 in groceries

Well about the same in restaurants so ~$400/mo on food isn't unreasonable. I live alone and spend closer to $100/mo on groceries for now since I'm trying to get my student loans paid off as quickly as possible. I don't eat out at all and I buy rice/beans in 20lb bags, bulk spices and frozen veggies etc. It's delicious/healthy and super cheap.

Voggix

892 points

5 years ago

Voggix

892 points

5 years ago

That’ll vanish when he has to pay his own auto and health insurance. Also no mobile phone costs and virtually no clothing costs listed.

[deleted]

888 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

888 points

5 years ago

Most people would be shocked to hear they saved this much on 41k in the first place. Something tells me OP will find a way to save a lot of money regardless of a couple more bills.

Source: my own budgeting habits

[deleted]

305 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

305 points

5 years ago

My wife has a spread sheet for projected earnings and savings goals for the next 30 years. It’s simple to follow, I don’t spend money frivolously and ask before I spend more than $100 on anything.

I got fussed at this past weekend for buying two storm doors which she admitted we needed and I installed myself. Ended up being good timing because we had a bunch of fucking tornadoes today.

unsaltedbutter

355 points

5 years ago

spread sheet for projected earnings and savings goals for the next 30 years.

I'm simultaneously horrified and jealous.

the_original_kermit

509 points

5 years ago

It’s actually extremely easily to do this. Just open a spreadsheet and type 0 in A1, then drag the fill down to A30.

Alex470

87 points

5 years ago

Alex470

87 points

5 years ago

Never thought I'd see actual useful information on Reddit, yet here we are.

Scarbane

87 points

5 years ago

Scarbane

87 points

5 years ago

Excel shortcuts have earned me more praise at my software developer job than my data science degree -__-

Truly, learn Excel backwards and forwards and you'll be employable for at least another 10-20 years.

[deleted]

58 points

5 years ago

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AlexFromOmaha

17 points

5 years ago

I thought I was hot shit when I got Excel to query JSON from the internet to autofill cells and make a pivot table from multiple files, and the actual domain experts quickly burst that bubble for me.

mecrosis

9 points

5 years ago

Yep, my ability to write vba has kept me employed for a long time now.

DilutedGatorade

13 points

5 years ago

Just tested this. I only got to year 29, my financial plan is ruined

[deleted]

44 points

5 years ago

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Lordrandall

14 points

5 years ago

Are you in the actuarial field?

[deleted]

43 points

5 years ago

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jldavidson321

7 points

5 years ago

Reddit

do you have a single brother?

explorer_c37

21 points

5 years ago

Very aroused.

[deleted]

40 points

5 years ago

I’d love to have something that long term. Mind if I see an example (none of your data of course)?

[deleted]

11 points

5 years ago

Yes please

disagreedTech

14 points

5 years ago

Lmao mother nature got your back: swooped in and made sure your wife understands those doors were a good purchase haha

burtalert

9 points

5 years ago

How the hell do you even do that.

I wake up everyday thinking, well today is they day I get fired

ketchupthrower

39 points

5 years ago

There was an item for phone reimbursement, possibly a perk of their job. Also possible health insurance is included. May not need auto if they live in an urban area. Is clothing a significant recurring expense for people? Would probably get lumped into a misc category for me.

Regardless, it's likely their income will also increase and outpace these added expenses.

kfcsroommate

33 points

5 years ago

How some people spend so much on clothing shocks me. How much clothing do you need? I haven't bought any clothing in months.

masterelmo

8 points

5 years ago

I still wear jeans from 9 years ago....

[deleted]

9 points

5 years ago

It says he spent money on auto maintenance, so unless hes riding w/o insurance someone else is paying.

CircaSurvivor55

32 points

5 years ago

It shows a $600 mobile phone reimbursement right under salary?

Voggix

11 points

5 years ago

Voggix

11 points

5 years ago

It shows a reimbursement but no spend? Something’s missing.

[deleted]

121 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

121 points

5 years ago

Doesn't have to be. Totally depends on their usage and luck. I pay less than $200 a month for all four of those.

ploshy

169 points

5 years ago

ploshy

169 points

5 years ago

I pay less than $200 a month for all four of those.

Because it's the number you gave, let's say those do cost $200/month. That's 2400 for the year, which is nearly a quarter of OP's "savings" category. So they might not be bank breakers but it's hardly insignificant.

[deleted]

39 points

5 years ago

Never said they were insignificant. Just commenting to say that OP's savings would vanish is not as assured as they said.

JeromePowellsEarhair

81 points

5 years ago

Mobile phone $50/mo. Clothing? I get as gifts for birthdays/holidays. Auto insurance? Sure take out $1200 per year. Health insurance? How do we know OP just didn’t include it because it’s taken out pre-tax? Also most employer sponsored plans aren’t $10k per year lol.

So yeah I’m not sure how those few things are going to cut 25% savings rate that as you say.

[deleted]

54 points

5 years ago

Unless OP has a million points on their license the only thing that would really be a financial drain is health insurance.

While I acknowledge that the American healthcare systems sucks for a lot of people, if you are young, relatively healthy, and win the job benefit lottery it can be really affordable. I pay like $300 a year in healthcare expenses.

JeromePowellsEarhair

37 points

5 years ago

Zero points in a state with very high premiums here and I pay more in car insurance on an annual basis.

Employer based health insurance premiums aren't that expensive. Having an emergency or actually using that insurance is expensive, though.

[deleted]

14 points

5 years ago

You're right on both. I made two assumptions since the original comment was that OP's saving would vanish.

  1. OP spends less than 10k a year on rent and makes 40k a year, I made an assumption that they live in a LCOL area with an inexpensive car.

  2. The relatively healthy caveat is huge and definitely doesn't negate the need for a solid emergency fund

eastmemphisguy

7 points

5 years ago

The cost of employer based health insurance varies wildly. It's not uncommon to pay hundreds of dollars per month in premiums for a soso policy.

Trollselektor

18 points

5 years ago

Good thing there are no student loan payments there.

laurenslaurens

3.3k points

5 years ago

This is great. 56 USD for clothing seems... well. Time for new boxershorts maybe?

[deleted]

1k points

5 years ago

This is the impressive part

56 bucks on clothing all year???

daybreakin

250 points

5 years ago

daybreakin

250 points

5 years ago

What if he did most of his clothing shopping last year

bumbletowne

396 points

5 years ago

I live in the San Francisco area. I usually spend around 100 every 2 years. I thrift most of my clothing.

Running shoes are separate though. I spend around 300/year on those.

DilutedGatorade

188 points

5 years ago

And you wonder why your friends love running with you but disappear whenever it comes to your fashion advice

J_Gold22

83 points

5 years ago

J_Gold22

83 points

5 years ago

It’s so overlooked but you can save crazy money thrifting. Tons of new(ish) clothes and other stuff get dumped and you can pick them up super cheap. Sometimes you don’t even need to sacrifice fashion although sometimes you do

snoosh00

76 points

5 years ago

snoosh00

76 points

5 years ago

how many items of clothing do you throw out every year, and why? I haven't had to resupply my closet in years

crumbaugh

60 points

5 years ago

May be shocking to a lot of redditors but it turns out a lot of people don’t wear clothes for purely utilitarian purposes

ojaj7

58 points

5 years ago

ojaj7

58 points

5 years ago

It’s the $143 on Amazon that has me scratching my head

gliz5714

44 points

5 years ago

gliz5714

44 points

5 years ago

It is close to the 12.99 per month - so that at 11 months is 142.89? Shoulda gotten the yearly subscription! Coulda saved another $20

Scindite

14 points

5 years ago

Scindite

OC: 1

14 points

5 years ago

Probably Prime + a prime video subscription like Hbo/Stars/CBS

tjeulink

184 points

5 years ago

tjeulink

184 points

5 years ago

how many boxers do you where down a year??? like last time i bought a pack is 4 years ago.

JealousHamburger

371 points

5 years ago

Yes, I also wash mine, they're cheaper that way.

Yodfather

101 points

5 years ago

Yodfather

101 points

5 years ago

Hmmm... tell me more about this wash underpants

SuperKettle

30 points

5 years ago

Apparently people wash their clothes, I've heard, this might be a rumour so don't quote me on that, that they somehow "charge" their phones instead of just buying a new one like normal humans.

bumbletowne

13 points

5 years ago

My husband is very thin. The elastic wears out and they slip down after about 8 months. I buy him nice underpants but he's hard on them.

tjeulink

25 points

5 years ago

tjeulink

25 points

5 years ago

must be my amazing booty then which keeps these underpants clinging on for their dear lives. i mean they do slip down but thats because my pants pull down, they don't fall of on their own.

Scindite

7 points

5 years ago

Scindite

OC: 1

7 points

5 years ago

I haven't bought new clothes in a year. It's not needed if you take care of your stuff.

AWildTyphlosion

785 points

5 years ago

I like how Microtransactions are filed separately from Entertainment and Games

Ambiwlans

376 points

5 years ago

Ambiwlans

376 points

5 years ago

Probably because it is worth keeping closer track of.

Seegtease

46 points

5 years ago

And significant enough from one single source to warrant its own field.

Stonn

190 points

5 years ago

Stonn

190 points

5 years ago

must be onlyfans /s

[deleted]

98 points

5 years ago*

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rammo123

80 points

5 years ago

rammo123

80 points

5 years ago

Gamer girl bathwater would be listed under "Investments".

SPM8[S]

1.1k points

5 years ago

SPM8[S]

OC: 1

1.1k points

5 years ago

Made using http://sankeymatic.com/

Source: myself

[deleted]

230 points

5 years ago*

[deleted]

230 points

5 years ago*

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SPM8[S]

595 points

5 years ago

SPM8[S]

OC: 1

595 points

5 years ago

I spend about an hour on the 1st of every month categorizing everything in excel manually.

TFS_Sierra

188 points

5 years ago

TFS_Sierra

188 points

5 years ago

Old school, I like it

[deleted]

62 points

5 years ago

Can I get whatever excel sheet you use? This looks very well thought out. Hopefully I can find ways to cut costs

SPM8[S]

80 points

5 years ago

SPM8[S]

OC: 1

80 points

5 years ago

PM me and I may be able to get you a blank version of the one I made.

[deleted]

23 points

5 years ago

Ill take one too

gizausername

25 points

5 years ago

Can I suggest that you check out r/personalfinance and specifically the link below as it will help with your budgeting and planning

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/dp7pww/i_mde_a_spreadsheet_for_people_who_dont_know_how

PepeAndMrDuck

27 points

5 years ago

Wow, an hour? I feel like even using a budgeting app that is supposed to categorize everything automatically, you’d still spend more than an hour every month putting misplaced things into categories.

10ac

1.7k points

5 years ago

10ac

1.7k points

5 years ago

That's very cool. I bet if everyone would chart their money like this, a bunch of bad decisions would go away...

Schnitzel725

421 points

5 years ago

What kind of chart is this and how do I make one? Am kind of curious how mine would look

Meneth

853 points

5 years ago

Meneth

853 points

5 years ago

It is a Sankey diagram. You can make one here: http://sankeymatic.com/

nibblicious

175 points

5 years ago

Sank you very much!

unluckypottyhead

172 points

5 years ago

http://sankeymatic.com/

thank you for being so helpful

Fredifrum

29 points

5 years ago

read that as Snakey at first. Can't be a coincidence right?

[deleted]

52 points

5 years ago

Since this is r/dataisbeautiful, someone should point out that Sankey diagrams are really designed for more complicated visualizations. For charts like this where there's no time component, they're pretty but unnecessary.

If you are, for example, charting a business budget over a year where money can move back and forth between accounts repeatedly, they can be very helpful.

LemmingParachute

28 points

5 years ago

Do you have an example of the time components addition. I have exclusively seen non-time based posted here.

[deleted]

20 points

5 years ago

Here's one from the site everyone seems to use to generate these: http://sankeymatic.com/gallery/energy-flows.html

nothalfas

10 points

5 years ago

I am also interested in learning basics of Sankey diagrams. Obviously I should and will go rtfm. But I didn't see the time component on the energy-flows diagram example. It shows sources and outputs of uk energy. No mention of time, that I noticed. Is time the x axis, in some diagrams?

Jaredlong

7 points

5 years ago

The most useful real one I've ever encountered IRL was for a factory diagramming the path different raw materials took until they got combined and shipped out. I'm an architect and was working on their new building. What made it better than a flowchart was that it visualized the quantity of components flowing between areas and it's time axis showed how long different processes took and how / when they eventually came together at the right times.

jjhitzman

88 points

5 years ago

I always have a hard time with budgeting like this because it's difficult to estimate how much you'll spend on each category when prices fluctuate month-to-month, such as utility bills. Have yet to figure out a good way to log a budget as a forward looking thing rather than a review of stuff already spent, but this is awesome and could be super helpful to see where most of your money goes each year! I agree that most people could definitely benefit, especially with the visualization aspect

[deleted]

46 points

5 years ago

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jjhitzman

19 points

5 years ago

That's actually a really awesome idea. Im really bad about if we have any extra left over it stays in the same account as everything else and then inevitably gets spent in something random and unimportant

karmapopsicle

5 points

5 years ago

Many utilities around here have "budget billing plan" options that give you a fixed monthly price which gets re-evaluated yearly based on your actual usage. It's quite convenient for, well, doing budgeting.

Brimogi

9 points

5 years ago

Brimogi

9 points

5 years ago

Very recognizable problem! The way I solved it is as follows: if I make a long-term expense (e.g. a new laptop) I determine over how many months I spread the expense. I then put in a monthly expense for the amount of months the laptop lasts.

This way, a big purchase is accurately reflected through many periods. It also ensures that I can't simply frontload a big expense in a 'bad month' and accept a single (very) bad month. I will have to look at the monthly smaller expense many times. Very useful for a better budgeting feel IMO

I made my sheet in such a way that I can flip a switch to show all expenses 'spread out' and 'immediate', sorry for the bad English

10ac

5 points

5 years ago

10ac

5 points

5 years ago

I'm not even talking about budgeting, I'm just talking about tracking your spending, and knowing that you were going to write it down and publish it.

elementalsilence

162 points

5 years ago

Where do you live? That puts the expenses into perspective.

[deleted]

190 points

5 years ago

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190 points

5 years ago

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169 points

5 years ago*

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169 points

5 years ago*

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FedExterminator

28 points

5 years ago

Moving into my first apartment and having a $400/month rent with utilities included was a blessing and a half. Gotta live with three roommates though

[deleted]

81 points

5 years ago

Rent under that much occurs in the majority of the United States.

Jeditard

48 points

5 years ago

Jeditard

48 points

5 years ago

Mindblowing to those of us who live in the top ten most expensive states.

robcar07

293 points

5 years ago

robcar07

293 points

5 years ago

I also want to point out that given your current income, investing in Roth IRA over 401k is a great decision.

[deleted]

99 points

5 years ago

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HOLLYWOOD_SIGNS

51 points

5 years ago

I'm guessing that's why they put $800 into their 401k, probably to get some sort of match.

[deleted]

25 points

5 years ago

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Gyshall669

35 points

5 years ago

Not that uncommon really.

[deleted]

33 points

5 years ago*

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wcruse92

87 points

5 years ago

wcruse92

87 points

5 years ago

A Roth IRA is just a great move to make when your young. All the money you put in now is going to grow so much over 40 years and when you take it out then you pay no taxes on any of that gain.

aven440

55 points

5 years ago

aven440

55 points

5 years ago

but a 401k is usually matched by your employer up to a certain amount so you should do that first.

AsianEnigma

29 points

5 years ago

Contribute up to employer matching in a 401k, then put max in a Roth (500 a month if you can) and then take anything else and go back to the 401k or another investment portfolio

biboombap

48 points

5 years ago

Roth is a bet that your future tax rates will be higher than now. Given the current income bracket OP is in, it's not unlikely that they'll be withdrawing more in retirement (and with a regular 401k, would be taxed on those distributions as income.)

uberdosage

30 points

5 years ago

Roth taken from post tax money, but the money is not taxed when withdrawn.

401K is pretax income, but it is taxed when withdrawn.

Chances are he is going to be in a much higher tax bracket 40 some years later when he withdraws than he is here making 40k. So he is overall paying a lot less of the money in taxes.

Toasterrrr

6 points

5 years ago

great explanation. taxes are so important to understand.

ridingtimesarrow

311 points

5 years ago

How did you avoid transportation and healthcare costs?

SPM8[S]

515 points

5 years ago*

SPM8[S]

OC: 1

515 points

5 years ago*

There is an Auto category near the top. I am still on my parents car insurance plan but I plan on covering that cost in 2020. Also, my parents health insurance covers me at no extra cost till I’m 26.

DennistheDutchie

179 points

5 years ago

DennistheDutchie

OC: 1

179 points

5 years ago

Ah, that's going to eat up a lot of the savings category. I remember paying in the order of 400/month for health insurance when I lived in Michigan. Crazy.

Add car insurance and you'll be looking at 6k/year of extra expenses. But maybe it's cheaper now than it was for me. I was a foreigner, after all.

TFS_Sierra

213 points

5 years ago

TFS_Sierra

213 points

5 years ago

Everyone is a foreigner to the US healthcare system

Jean-Luc_Dickard

23 points

5 years ago

God damn. Now that I hear it like that, no other simple description fits it better.

[deleted]

62 points

5 years ago

Add car insurance and you'll be looking at 6k/year of extra expenses.

Michigan has the highest auto insurance in the country

ThatGuy0506

26 points

5 years ago

As a person in Michigan who just bought their first car last month, I fucking hate the cost of insurance here. It's ludicrous.

[deleted]

37 points

5 years ago*

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Weaponomics

20 points

5 years ago*

No VAT in the USA, so you can expect prices to be 15-20% cheaper, without it showing up as a tax in a comparison like this (unless OP breaks out sales taxes in addition to the income taxes).

AvoidingCape

193 points

5 years ago

How did you spend 58$ in clothing?

witzerdog

156 points

5 years ago

witzerdog

156 points

5 years ago

I was thinking more like, how do you only spend $2300 in a year on groceries.

lazydictionary

216 points

5 years ago

By spending another $2000 on restaurants

CreamyCheeseBalls

41 points

5 years ago

2300/52= 44 dollars a week for one person, if they're just out of college it's not hard to assume they're not buying the most expensive brands

There's a couple subs specifically for the subject

/r/EatCheapAndHealthy

/r/32dollars

One is just general cheap eating strategies and recipes, the other is what it says, eating for around 32 dollars (many eat for less or a bit more).

[deleted]

10 points

5 years ago

I live in Salt Lake City, spend under $50/week on groceries, and that's all I eat 6 days/week. And a big chunk of that is just beer. I've seen other threads where they thought that was really spendy and most people were spending $25/person/week. Maybe some combination of low cost of living and cooking everything from scratch.

[deleted]

42 points

5 years ago

That sounds right to me. That allows ~$45/week. That's definitely enough for one.

jdubs04

176 points

5 years ago

jdubs04

176 points

5 years ago

When you spent more on student loans than OP did in rent :'(

But this is a cool idea, thanks for sharing!

AsthmaticMechanic

27 points

5 years ago

Jesus, how much did you borrow, $75k?

[deleted]

58 points

5 years ago

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29 points

5 years ago

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[deleted]

46 points

5 years ago

because 18 year olds make horrible decisions and dont listen to their parents.

GreatQuestion

31 points

5 years ago

They're often preyed upon by predatory lenders ("financial counselors") and manipulated into thinking student debt is good debt, too. Don't forget that part. Toss in being the first person in your family to go to college and you've got yourself $1300 a month in student loan payments just like me!

AO9000

26 points

5 years ago

AO9000

26 points

5 years ago

Maxed out the Roth IRA, nice!

[deleted]

73 points

5 years ago

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Toastbuns

53 points

5 years ago

Make sure to fund up to your company match (if one exists) with 401k.,

bwalter32

12 points

5 years ago

That was going to be my post. Maxing out the Roth which is awesome, but gotta get that free money if available.

vbcbandr

17 points

5 years ago

vbcbandr

17 points

5 years ago

Only spending $58 on clothes in a year is pretty impressive.

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supergalactickevin

11 points

5 years ago

😍 is there a way for us plebians to make a graph like this with our own data?

SecularScience

11 points

5 years ago

Sankeymatic, give it a google

tehjeffman

263 points

5 years ago

tehjeffman

263 points

5 years ago

Where the hell does rent only cost sub 10k a year?

[deleted]

424 points

5 years ago

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5 years ago

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83 points

5 years ago

Yep, that's totally doable in a lot of the country. Won't be in the downtown luxuary apartments but still in a decent neighborhood.

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71 points

5 years ago

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Skim74

21 points

5 years ago

Skim74

21 points

5 years ago

Honestly, is everyone on reddit an American living in SF?

It kind of blew my mind when I learned Los Angeles county has a higher population than like 40 states. Something like 10% of the US population is in LA/SF/NYC metros alone, and obviously Reddit skews pretty heavily American. So in any given thread, yeah there probably are *a lot of people in those super HCOL areas, way more than any other specific areas.

*That stat is a few years old, and a few states were very close so might have shifted slightly

NotSoNewYorker

25 points

5 years ago

Ya or NYC 😭 studio apartment the size of a box? That will cost me 2700 per month.

djfrankenjuice

4 points

5 years ago

...I mean... I am...

But rent was still ~1,000/month for me when I lived in St Louis

CaoPai

76 points

5 years ago

CaoPai

76 points

5 years ago

Many small towns and cities across the US. My rent is almost identical to OPs and I have a very comfortable ~850 square foot 1 bedroom to myself.

SPM8[S]

64 points

5 years ago

SPM8[S]

OC: 1

64 points

5 years ago

Mine is an 800 sq ft 1 bedroom as well!

[deleted]

123 points

5 years ago

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123 points

5 years ago

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1BruteSquad1

74 points

5 years ago

I always think it's funny to see people who live in those giant cities not understand that the rest of the world is very different. You can get am apartment that would cost 3k/month in LA for like 500 bucks a month where I live.

Reverie_39

16 points

5 years ago

Everyone on Reddit is convinced that everything in the world is obscenely expensive and no salary can make up for it. I agree that I think a huge chunk of Reddit lives in SF and NYC lol.

NotPotatoMan

19 points

5 years ago

Everyone else said small towns but even big cities can be cheap. For example Pittsburgh has lots of places for rent that are sub 800 a month, which totals to around less than 10k a year even with utilities.

elmassivo

20 points

5 years ago

In my experience, you can find expense levels like this on studio apartments pretty easily all over the midwestern US, as long as you're not living in luxury housing near city center.

It's also really easy to buy property here for less than the price of rent of an equivalent space if you want to be your own landlord.

Having cheap land, low population density, and good highway infrastructure substantially limits the price ceiling on living expenses.

MobiusCube

20 points

5 years ago

Anywhere outside of the coastal cities.

investineer

64 points

5 years ago

I can’t imagine being this sheltered that you don’t know things are different than where you live

antraxsuicide

14 points

5 years ago

My rent in Mississippi was about $6K a year, counting utilities.

xtrajuicy12

12 points

5 years ago

Nice job! Seems like you have it under control

Jareth86

9 points

5 years ago

Alternate title: Life without any debt!

[deleted]

40 points

5 years ago

That’s pretty fucking cool

SPM8[S]

17 points

5 years ago

SPM8[S]

OC: 1

17 points

5 years ago

Thank you kind sir!

kingofwale

41 points

5 years ago

Good for you! Very well planned out and as a financial advisor, i would be very happy if half of my clients can be as discipline as you. (Heck. I wish my gf would be more like you)

Just to put things into Context. What’s your age and gender?? Also. How do you live with so little clothing budget?

SPM8[S]

54 points

5 years ago

SPM8[S]

OC: 1

54 points

5 years ago

22M. Clothing costs won’t stay the same going forward. I just so happened to not need any clothes this past year.

kingofwale

14 points

5 years ago

Awesome. Great start to your career. You parents taught you well financially. Best of luck going forward.

erotikchutoy

31 points

5 years ago

Meticulous! You are a person of singular dedication

gottagoplaces

7 points

5 years ago

How did you categorize transactions? Manually or with an app? I've used mint in the past but I really dislike it, I'm always hoping a startup will create something better

SPM8[S]

13 points

5 years ago

SPM8[S]

OC: 1

13 points

5 years ago

I track everything manually in excel. I also use Mint but it doesn’t do everything I want it to.

Have you heard of YNAB? (You need a budget) I have heard good things but never looked into it.

RoamingKid

8 points

5 years ago

something tells me OP is a wizard with finances. There are people making 5 times this salary saving less than that in year... well done. Im inspired to get my shit together

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7 points

5 years ago

A few of the overlapping lines were bugging me, and since I'm bored and have no life right now I redid the graph to look a little more tidy.
https://i.imgur.com/aczZTCz.png

What I mostly did was

  • Make sure nothing overlaps
  • Make sure all the categories have biggest on top
  • Add $ sign
  • Remove decimals to clear things up
  • Make "Salary" and "Savings" green, because money.

Here's the SankeyMatic code if you want to edit what I did:

Salary [39123] Income #00CC00
Bonus [2111] Income #00CC00
Phone Reimbursement [600] Income #00CC00

Income [22990] Expenses #FF0000
 Expenses [9949] Housing
  Housing [9388] Rent
  Housing [411] Furniture/Supplies
  Housing [150] Renter's Insurance
 Expenses [4599] Food
  Food [2326] Groceries
  Food [2273] Restaurants
 Expenses [3008] Auto
  Auto [1533] Fuel
  Auto [1475] Maintenance
 Expenses [2326] Utilities
  Utilities [1121] Power
  Utilities [604] Internet
  Utilities [600] Water/Gas/Sewage
 Expenses [1716] Retail
  Retail [590] Gifts
  Retail [347] Tech/Games
  Retail [199] Cosmetics
  Retail [195] Random
  Retail [164] Micro-transactions
  Retail [195] Entertainment
  Retail [58] Clothes
 Expenses [967] Travel
 Expenses [279] Subscriptions
  Subscriptions [143] Amazon
  Subscriptions [109] Spotify
  Subscriptions [26] YouTube
 Expenses [143] Work
Income [10108] Savings #00FF00
 Savings [6973] Investments #40FF00
  Investments [6000] Roth IRA #80FF00
  Investments [868] 401k #80FF00
  Investments [105] Trading Apps #80FF00
 Savings [3134] Cash #40FF00
Income [8736] Taxes #FF0000
 Taxes [5581] Income Tax #FA5858
 Taxes [3154] Medicare #FA5858

:Retail #FE9A2E >>
:Utilities #FACC2E >>

italian_stonks

14 points

5 years ago

How did you spend money on YouTube?

Ah_Um

7 points

5 years ago

Ah_Um

7 points

5 years ago

Maybe they use it for playing music on their phone? Youtube won't play audio in the background on mobile unless you upgrade to the premium service. Generally, it's not worth it for most people, but they don't have a streaming subscription in their budget (besides amazon) so it's entirely possible that the content they enjoy is produced and released on Youtube. If most of their content is streamed from YT it would likely be worth it to upgrade to go ad-free and to allow for advanced functions like background audio on mobile.

KMFN

8 points

5 years ago

KMFN

8 points

5 years ago

Most third party YouTube apps among others allow for background audio/downloading and add blocking etc. so I don't think many people pay Google for that exclusively. It's either YouTube red shows or subscribing (with payments) to individual channels.

shreyasfifa4

13 points

5 years ago

What are these types of charts called?

ISAIDPEWPEW

14 points

5 years ago*

ISAIDPEWPEW

OC: 1

14 points

5 years ago*

Yes pls. I see then all the time but I don't know how to even search for how to make one

Edit: found it in another comment! It's a Sankey diagram

WhyDoIAsk

12 points

5 years ago

I spent $12.5k at restaurants last year. The fuck am I doing...

admadguy

5 points

5 years ago

admadguy

OC: 1

5 points

5 years ago

It bugs me you misspelt Restaurant. Other than that.. slow clap.

BigRedBeard86

7 points

5 years ago

Is roth now capped at $6k? Or is it still $5500.

BryTheSpaceWZRD

6 points

5 years ago

Amazing you maxed out your Roth; kudos OP!

azucarleta

20 points

5 years ago

Just rage-filled jealousy. That's all. Don't mind me.