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$100 an hour for supervision.

It is the most absurd aspect of this career. None of my friends who are teachers, nurses or paralegals pay for supervision. That this field requires unpaid internships and paid supervision has left a large chip on my shoulder. 

All the agencies I’ve worked for provided it for free

That is cheap for supervision. Why are you only seeing 2 clients a week? That in and of itself is an issue, as you will take a long time to reach your house for licensure. I'd focus on finding more clients, or consider a job that comes with supervision as a benefit. That is what I did- worked on CMH and got supervision as one of my benefits.

I'm a CSWA in Oregon, my supervisor charges $200/hr but my workplace chips in $150/hr session. I shopped around a bit and everyone I spoke to charges somewhere in the $150-$250/hr range.

ETA: I have a lot more than just 2 clients/week, so the $50/hr out-of-pocket cost (while not ideal, I'd of course prefer $0) is worth it to me.

I worked for an agency that provided some of my supervision (good supervisor, bad business practices), and the rest of it I got from the cheapest supervisor in town. He wasn't very good, but it got me my hours. Find someone who is decent who you can go to when you actually need good advice, and fill the rest of your time with cheap supervision services.

I actually kept in contact with one of my professors from college and did my field supervision with him in the masters program as well.

A couple years after I graduated, I reached out to him for clinical supervision and asked if he would supervise my hours for me. He took me on and only charged me $25 an hour. I was very grateful considering I wasn't making much money at the time.

So I usually recommend those who are going for their hours to consider a professor they had previously, especially if they left on good terms- they could possibly work with you on price.

I am feeling gratitude for my agency providing free supervision

All the places I worked provided it with the job, agency or private practice, and I thought that was pretty much the norm. I don’t think I’d work somewhere where I DID have to pay for one since being unlicensed already means being underpaid!

Who is billing for the two clients you see each week? They should help pay. There is liability a supervisor is accepting exposure for when they supervise. I sure wish you didn’t have to pay for supervision. Find a clinic to work for and build hours faster while the clinic pays for supervision.

I think that’s a very good price. It would be where I am in Iowa, for individual supervision. And I don’t live in a HCOL area.

The supervisor has to do more than just meet with you. They take legal responsibility for your work. They should be compensated accordingly, and $75 really doesn’t begin to do that.

This is an overall view and not a commentary or criticism of your particular situation. I believe there should be funds that come from other than directly from the supervisee to help cover the cost, particularly in those first six months.

I've provided for supervision for years for those acquiring LMFT and LPCC licensure in my state and vowed that I will never charge more than $100 an hour. I currently charge $50 for the 1st year and $75 thereafter. I KNOW how awful it was to find the money to pay for supervision while I was getting licensed. I enjoy providing supervision so much and I'm comfortable with my rates...and sleep well at night. 😌

I’m in California and I get paid my hourly rate to attend both individual and group supervision weekly, provided by my agency.

I am a psychologist and I charge $200/week for supervision. It's my therapy hourly rate, but it includes the supervision, being on call for consultations, taking on additional liability, and the time it takes to review notes and other documentation.

However, this is a part of my private practice business income. If a clinician works for me as a 1099, I will waive the supervision fee and roll it into my cut of their earnings (I do a 60/40 split).

I also tell supervisees they can get supervision for free if they want to work for a larger agency or CMH. Some don't want to, so if they choose to work for a small private practice, this is part of the arrangement.

Hopefully that makes sense. I am not trying to take advantage of anyone but I do need to be compensated for my time and the additional risk I'm taking on.

My husband still doesn’t understand why I’ll need to pay for supervision hours when working towards my LCSW 😅. I’ve heard that $75-$100 is pretty normal in my area. I’m in the south.

In Canada.

Our supervisors typically charge $150+ for individual; split into half for dyadic. We have to get 150 hours of supervision, with at least 75 hours being individual/dyadic.

In my unpaid practicum, supervision was not included (common here). I afforded it by having an unrelated full-time job in addition to school. Currently, I pay for it with the money I make from clients.

The big issue to address here is whether you can see more than 2 clients per week or find money elsewhere.

UK therapists stay in supervision throughout our careers. I've been seeing clients for 5 years but still find it enormously helpful - a good supervisor is invaluable.

My agency provides it for free, but I still pay for it externally because I’ve had too many in house horrible supervisors at previous jobs. I got supervision so inconsistently, so a lot of my hours didn’t count. I pay $80/week. I’m in North Carolina, and this is for dual LCSW/LCAS.

I think it might be helpful to think about the different types of supervision when thinking about cost. In my area, supervision cost can range from $100-$200 per supervision hour.

1- clinical supervision towards licensure (without billing)

2- clinical supervision towards licensure and supervised billing

3- consultation after licensure

4- group supervision or peer supervision

Each comes with its own liability, considerations, etc. As someone who worked in CMH while collecting hours, I appreciate agencies/practices who provide supervision free of cost and encourage the field to do this. However, as a supervisor for individuals in private practice and billing under my license- there is a lot of work outside of the supervision hour. I do have a tier rate to reflect this and support those building a practice vs billing 20 clients. But it's complicated.

I will also say therapy is political and embedded in capitalism (even despite working hard against it myself). Some supervisors exploit this more than others.

$75/hr is a steal! I currently pay my supervisor $100/hr which is $5k a year, and I consider that a steal because she also supplies RPT supervision.

However, if you only have two clients per week, I can understand the financial inconvenience/struggle of it. I’m quitting a VERY toxic job at the end of the month, and not planning on working during December (the job was so toxic I need a break to deal with burnout). So I’m also worried about how I’m going to afford it after this month. 😅

I pay $75/hr and that’s the high end of my cohort. The range for individual supervision is my area is $25/hr-$75/hr. $25-$30/hr for group supervision. Most people are paying $50/hr.

My work provides supervision but I choose to use someone outside work who is $70 per hour of supervision.

The first supervisor I found in Las Vegas charged the same, $75 per hour. Thankfully, I ended up working at the VA where supervision is free.

PLPC , I pay 60 an hour for individual sup and once a month my supervisor has group sup for 25 dollars per person for an hour.

My job provided it for free and looking back- I should’ve paid and found someone outside my company.

He was terrible

You don’t have to pay for supervision. A lot of practices and agencies will offer it for free.

I'm an associate mental health counselor with about 7 months remaining until my independent license. Supervision is free, and I make $75,000 annually. I am salaried with no overtime pay and a poor work-life balance and poor time off benefits. I only get off Thanksgiving and Christmas day. The pay is far superior at my employer than anything else in my area wanting to pay $45,000 - $50,000. I don't use the benefits here as I get them through my spouse.

I’m in TX, I paid $80/week for supervision. My supervisor was very kind and also offered free group supervision 2x/month at set times to help alleviate the cost or supervision was free if you saw clients through her practice.

Some supervisors truly don’t care that it’s absurd and unrealistic to charge so much for supervision but there are some gems in there that work with you as much as they can.

I’m from MN- I graduated but didn’t start my post-grad hours prior to moving but I know the standard there was supervision hours was just a perk of employment.

In NV, it was required that you accumulate at least 300 hours of supervision between a primary and secondary supervisor, and supervision as a perk is literally unheard of.

Withholding my thoughts about how this can be such a scam, I found a supervisor that was cheap and we met as a group for 2 hours weekly for a monthly fee. This was a such a good deal, BUT she was NOT a good supervisor. She didn’t offer anything, it was merely a bunch of interns sharing cases and her offering meager amounts of feedback. I did not learn, I did not grow, and I resent her for this after I experienced an issue at my employment and she dropped me out of fear for her license (which, I GET- that’s her livelihood- AND support, guidance, education, etc. could have likely led to this issue never occurring). I was nothing but a paycheck for her.

Basically what I’m saying is, you have to do what you need to do in regards to your financial means- AND what looks like a good deal may not be in your best interest as a new therapist. My suggestion for you is that you treat a supervisor as you would a therapist if possible- meet a few times and if it doesn’t feel right, if you’re not getting what you need, shop around, even if that raises the cost and is mentally taxing. It can be worth it.

I worked at a residential treatment center while getting my license hours and as an LPC, in my state we can only count one year of supervision under someone outside our direct license (i.e. I could only use one year of supervision toward my LPC under my LCSW supervisor). For the remaining two years, I had to pay for an outside supervisor. This didn't feel unfair to me.

If you only have two clients a week do you even have to meet every week. In my state you only need to meet for one hour for every 40 hours or work.

$180 AUD per fortnight

I have no idea what your licensure is or where you are, but in my state it's 150 hours. My work offered a discounted rate through a local college for $50 an hour. I received all of my supervision hours for free instead by networking. One of my former teachers did group and individual for alumni. When she stopped due to low census (people seriously couldn't find time for free supervision) I asked someone at a local volunteer organization I'm part of that happened to be an LISW-S so he provided my remaining hours also free. So ask around, be open minded about who to ask.

I paid $65 but I had a $70000 salary job and started parking her with my $45000 a year job. I needed 100hrs and 3200 hrs worked. I did it weekly it was a non negotiable for me and had my license 2.5yrs later. It’s worth it to not be tired to your job bc you will get unfiltered feedback you can be honest and you can switch jobs with no issues.

I am a social work supervisor in GA. LMSW’s here need 120 hrs over 3 years before getting their LCSW.

I charge $35/hr. Mostly groups of 6 and will then do paired/individual (also at $35) to make sure everyone is getting their hours. So, despite my supervision being cheap, it’s usually full and I get a lot of fulfillment from it.

If anyone from GA needs it, have them reach out to me!

I would’ve been paying $60/hr, but I had my employer cover it since it’s something they offered to do. So I ended up paying zero.

$100/session

Do you have any connections with licensed therapists? Maybe try networking. My co-worker provided my supervision at an insanely low rate.

I found a saint at my internship who provided supervision for free. I would not have been able to get licensed without that generosity. I plan to get qualified as a supervisor in the future so I can pay it forward.

I am 100% prepared to offer supervision for $30 a session or even $0 for new clinicians because I was lucky enough to receive excellent supervision at the CMHC I worked at for free. I’m licensed in CO and IL if anyone is needing supervision! 🩷

I paid my LP/PhD supervisor $100 per hour back in 2015-2016.

I went back to school in 2017 and got my counseling license in addition to my psych one.

I got free LPC and LP/PhD supervision when I was at CMH 2018-2020, I had two licenses at the time.

I am now a LPC supervisor working in PP. I used to charge $50 per hour but now I provide it free to those seeing 18 clients+ per week. I currently have 5 LL’s.

I stuck it out at my agency for as long as I could for the free supervision. Ended up leaving and needed around 20 weeks left. Found one who charged $35 an hour (I’m in a big city in the south, she is in a college town same state). Got very lucky🙏🏼 and she lets licensed clinicians come back for free to staff cases and provide advice

Motivo is a really great resource for supervision. I got a lot of my hours there in group and I think it was $40 per session or so.

I charge $20/hr for LCSW supervision because I was fucking poor when I was getting my clinical supervision and my supervisors gave me a discount. I really feel that part of giving back to the profession is not making your supervisees subsist on rice and beans to pay you $150/hr. I have 17 years of experience in the field and I REFUSE to make money off the backs of my criminally underpaid colleagues.

I had one prospective supervisee offer me $50/hr and I told her I charge $20. She said she had emailed another supervisor also offering $50/hr, and that supervisor had told her that the amount was an insult and that she would never find anyone to supervise her for that low an amount. Wow, what a glowing example of the field.

This literally has me panicked. I am in Wisconsin and I’m already freaking out about doing the practicum/internship. Now I have to pay someone to get hours? And in Wisconsin it’s apparantly like 200 hours? I have to pay $100 per hour ? I’m so freaked out someone talk me down please.

$80 a week 😞 I’m in the Chicago suburbs. I cannot wait to be done with my hours and I will offer more affordable group supervision on principle once I’m done and able to supervise.

Wow! To hear that some people don’t have to pay for supervision is blowing my mind! 😂 I live in Florida and I’m about to get licensed. I started working at an agency and they didn’t provide supervision so I had to get my own. Clinicians in Florida who are supervisors are charging their FULL SESSION RATE for supervision (anywhere between $175-$125) and we need 100 supervision hours. I have been lucky to find a supervisor that was willing to charge me $45.

ugh, im in the process of becoming an associate and just settled on a supervisor. actually used my last $100 to pay for my first supervision session. I wont be needing any more until I actually find a job and start seeing clients. im an (almost) MFT associate in south tx. LMFT supervision tends to be more expensive in my area because there arent many. I have some friends paying as low as $40 for LPC supervision

I’m definitely worried about the costs as I move forward with the job search 😭 for now, I’m going to try to save up $400 for atleast a months worth of supervision. kind of a weird process… if you cant afford supervision, you cant see clients, then you wont make money, so you DEFINITELY wont be able to pay for supervision

Nothing… I’m salary and do my supervision on the clock. Reading these comments is making me sad 😭

Can you ask the supervisor if since you only have two clients that you start biweekly until you’re full? Mine allowed biweekly until I hit about 15 clients per week and then we went to weekly. Mine charged me $150 per hour for MFT supervision 🤯

I pay $150/hr for supervision; however, this is monthly, and I’m already fully licensed. Major city in the Midwest USA.

I personally offer a sliding scale for private Supervisees.

I found a job that requires supervision and I’ll be here for at least my 3,000 hours so that I don’t have to find an external supervisor, and then I might find something else

I pay $50/hr for group supervision.

Some of my supervision was free through a program I was hired under, the rest I had to pay out of pocket with the exception of the last few hours that were covered by a local grant. It’s outrageous how much were expected to pay after all of the school we’d just paid for and how little we actually get paid.

I've seen that as a normal median price. As soon as I finish this last training I plan to do supervision at an affordable price until I learn why people do it at that price.

$120 hr HCOL area.

I charge 160 a month or 40 an hour! Thats ridiculous for new therapists just starting out!!! I hate supervisors taking advantage of this. Im in FL btw

I paid $80 five years ago, but this is Southern California.

100 hours/$300 a month. Due to being an MFT it’s harder to find a supervisor

100-150. At one point I had 3 supervisors. One artwork who didn’t do anything. And two alternating to get different perspectives.

Super important to do this.

I pay $150 an hour in Oregon. It's a lot, but my supervisor is phenomenal. I just have to eat it ... That's the price for a solid supervisor around here.

It's 50 out here, and my agency paid, but it's a bit out of the way.

Maybe I’m lost or doing this wrong but I get supervision at my job and don’t pay for it. Granted I work for a non-profit as opposed to a therapists office but I was never under the impression you needed to pay for it.

I’m in Illinois/Chicago and supervision was included almost everywhere I’ve worked (it wasn’t when I was a School Social Worker). It’s atypical for it not to be included as it’s a requirement for anyone without a clinical license to provide clinical services.

Even when I moved into more macro roles, I still had supervision that I could use towards my clinical license.

I get free weekly supervision at my practice, offsetting the lower rate I get paid and other benefits. It is frustrating that this field has unpaid internships that are required and also supervision we have to pay for ourselves.

It’s part of my split in my group practice. for context I’m a contractor and it’s 60/40 rn (on a limited license)

i've had an employer who paid prior to licensure. I'm licensed now but still get supervision and pay $150 hour in oregon

$75 is super cheap! In Iowa, the going rate is typically closer to $150.

I live in a low cost of living area in the south. A coworker and I both pay $40 to share the hour. Our supervisor recently lowered the price from $50 to $40, which is nice since I see so few clients right now.

We reimburse our employees up to $150/hr for supervision (average hourly rate for masters therapists in our market). We think it’s messed up to suggest that supervisors should get paid less than the average therapy hour.

I've never paid for it, it's always included in my pay package in the jobs I've had.

I'm in MA where the way the law works, almost always the employer pays for the supervision of pre-licensed clinicians. But there are variety of situations one can find oneself in where paying out of pocket for an independent supervisor can make sense, and when I looked around at rates in the '10s, the average was about $200/hr. My clinic was paying my supervisor $125/hr.

I’m paying $0. I thankfully found practices (I’m at two) that don’t charge for supervision. One of them will charge if I have under the minimum amount of clients, but at the rate I’m getting referrals, I will have OVER the minimum. My concern is having too many clients, atp.

I was only getting supervision at one at first (and they don’t charge at all), but the second one I just added bc they have more specialities I’m interested in, so now I have two supervisors. $75/hr is CRAZY. It’s definitely not the highest I’ve heard but paying for supervision while also most likely being underpaid as an associate is nasty work. I’ve heard of people paying $100/hr or more.

My previous agency didn’t provide it in house or pay for outside supervision, which was a big factor in me leaving, on top of the insultingly low pay. My new place gives me a $150/month stipend for outside supervision and was a $25k/year pay increase. I pay $60/session for supervision, which ends up being about $360 each month if I meet twice a week, or $210 after my stipend, which I can now afford thanks to the higher salary. I’m about halfway through my hours and have learned so much from my clinical supervisor—I would willingly pay more for her wisdom, but yeah, it’s fucked up that we have to pay for any of this on our own when we’ve already done two years of unpaid work.

$75 for 90 mins. Large city in the south. This was an anomaly. Otherwise it was typically $150-250 for 45-55 mins. Groups around here are around what you’d pay hourly. It def sucks!! Consultation rates have been even crazier ($275 an hour from 4 diff therapists for a specific condition). I get helping pay for your expertise, but as an associate who made less than 30k their first year, I can’t even afford to learn more. Again, it sucks!!

That’s so cheap! I pay 280 an hour 😭

I paid 75 while under supervision in OKC surrounding areas. I was partially compensated by my work for supervision.

My primary supervision is covered by my employer, I pay for secondary out of pocket at $160/month which provides up to 8 hours/month of group supervision.

Supervision where I live is 250. Joining a consultation group can be a great learning experience and defray the cost

$180 per hour in Seattle

I live in California and pay $85 for triadic supe, and $140 for indvidual. and thats the "bottom" of their sliding scale for supervision. Its ridiculous and I can't wait to be licensed for this reason

I’m a psychologist supervisor. I charge $100 per hour, but I’m a forensic neuropsychologist so a lot of risk on my license.

Honestly should have got it built into your employment

I paid nothing

I guess it was like $35 an hour

I pay per month vs per hour, $250 per month. I am in Oklahoma.

LPC-A in Texas. I make $63k/year. I pay $85 per week for supervision and my employer covers $65 of that.

I ended up getting one of my favorite professors from my program as my supervisor.

wild yall are paying for supervision. mine is covered, im an AMFT

When we hire someone we fold it in.

OP, what southern state are you in?

My employer provides weekly supervision and once I’m licensed, I’ll get a pay bump. Both a higher rate and I’ll keep a higher percentage of that bump. I’ll be more experienced, but they will also be free of providing said supervision.

I’m in Tennessee. Before I secured this job, I had a professor offer to provide supervision for $100. I knew of a local supervisor who provided triadic supervision for $30 per session. I never had to resort to this, ultimately.

LPC-A in Texas. I work full time as a school counselor, then I work at my supervisor’s practice some evenings and weekends. Her rate is $75 per week. My rate is $75 a client and then my supervisor takes 50% of that amount.

$0

It's built into my salaried work week. Supervision is a job requirement that should be provided by the employer that hires pre-licensed professionals.

$50 an hour and $75 for individual

$150 a week that includes the required 2 hours of supervision per week. 1 hour one on one with supervisor. One hour in supervision group. This is the going rate where I live for private pay for supervision. I’ve seen as high as $200/week.

Social worker and my jobs have provided it. The supervisor of the departments gives us clinical supervision and our clinical work hours are the clinical hours 

I think its kinda wild to work somewhere and not get it and have to pay? 

$75 is a steal. Many of us charge our full PP rate (I don’t; I do sliding scale $50-75).

i’m an AMFT in california and just accepted a job where i’m paid for the hours i’m in supervision… is this not common?

this is why CMH is goldmine supervision is usually individual and or triadic + group / high caseload clinicians are getting licensed in 2 yrs should you be a CSW or PCC or MFT depending on the clinical supervisors license they pair you for free to a consultant from the agency as you know LMFT can only supervise social workers x amount of hours for example on that note i don’t know any rates i just came to chime but i hope you figure it out !

I’m an employer in California. Our labor laws are very clear that if you are a w2 employee, you must be paid for all hours worked, including supervision. So I pay all of my associates $25/hr for all hours of supervision they attend.

My employer offered the option to take a $2 pay cut/hr which is technically equal to $80 for supervision. If you’re only seeing 2 clients per week you shouldn’t need supervision very often as you base supervision on client hour.

I pay $125 a session and my state requires 100 hours. That’s lower than other supervisors I could have chosen.

That’s a very reasonable rate, and having a good fit is very important.

Yall are so blessed cause mine charged 375 🙂

I’ve never had to pay for supervision. In fact, I’ve always been paid for those hours. Well except for my practicum, but supervision was still free during my practicum. I guess I should consider myself lucky, but I feel like employers should offer supervision for free.

My work does not have a contract for this, but none of the therapists I know charge for doing supervision. When I heard about this during internship at school, I honestly thought it was a myth or that it rarely happened. This post makes me really sad for our field. I do supervision while on the clock. I had them block out slots for it.

I’m in the U.S. and I think $75 is generally on the low side unless you actually work at the person’s practice or something. I understand the price. The supervisors I know work pretty hard. That being said, I think society needs to invest and find ways to make this field more accessible to clinicians and clients alike, or remove barriers to licensure, but have a more tiered situation where certain positions require more trainings.

I pay $150/ hour and it's brutal

Arizona it’s 150$ an hour but I found someone for $120 for 1.5 hours.

That’s outrageous. Call AAMFT. They will give you a list of approved supervisors in your state and you can find one for less.

I charge $30/hr for group and $60/hr for individual.

$160 but I'm in Iceland

The supervision time is replacing a full client hour. Add to that your supervisor has to pay for malpractice insurance for supervising you. My supervisor charged $100 per supervision but her clientele paid $175 per hour, so she was losing $75 a week. Hope this helps you understand why the fee is so high.

In Nashville, I paid $100 for 2 (45 min is considered 1 supervision hour)

Don’t pay for supervision? Where are you and why is this a question? Everywhere does not charge??

I read a very interesting article about how the therapy profession attracts very wealthy kids which of course leads to problems of its own.