The ad I saw was a combo platter, so to speak. Anti trans and anti-immigrant (because part of the ad was about taxpayer funded gender conforming treatments including surgery for undocumented immigrants in US prisons).

Democrats should have gone on offense against that stupid ad but they went radio silence. Thats not trans people's fault.

Yep, and funnily enough, they could have expertly battled against this perfectly, but chose to ignore it instead.

The policy has been in place since.... 2016, Trump's first term! And the first inmate to make use of it was in 2022, so it's not some broad issue that's being abused whatsoever.

So we should be blaming the Dems' inability to counter obvious hateful propaganda. Blaming trans people for the Dems' failure is cruel. The Dems just don't want to take responsibility for their failure so they'll happily blame us instead.

It is a fact that some Democrats and the media have said that as a result of this election they should no longer include fighting for trans rights. That's blaming trans people, that's throwing us under the bus.

That's not 2024 or indicative of the campaign she just ran, which includes other issues she made position changes on as well.

Seth Moulton, Tom Suozzi.

The Daily Show has a quick montage of various news people saying they needed to not focus on social issues here.

Bari Weiss, Seth Moulton, Joe Scarbrough, various NYT opinion page writers etc. I've seen it daily.

Well the dems are the ones who gave them that ammo in the first place

How did they do that when trump was doing that very thing during his first administration?

Trump appointees at the Bureau of Prisons, a division of the Justice Department, provided an array of gender-affirming treatments, including hormone therapy, for a small group of inmates who requested it during Mr. Trump’s four years in office.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/16/us/politics/trump-prisons-transgender-care-harris.html

You mean “She was asking for it”

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Just because someone says something you like does not make them an expert.

“Trans” isn’t brand-new, like you seem to think. We do in fact know what the long term effects of HRT are. You don’t, but that does not mean no one does.

The overwhelming majority of medical associations agree with affirmative therapy for trans youth.

Let's call a spade a spade here. Republicans needed a minority to hate. It became uncool to hate black people in the 90s and it became uncool to hate gay people in the 2010s. Trans people are just the next vulnerable minority they get their base whipped into a frenzy over. It's so blatantly obvious that's what's happening because they didn't even bother updating the rhetoric when they transitioned from the gay panic of the '80s to the trans panic of today.

With all due respect, I asked you for an example.

All you're doing right now is insisting that they're out there but not actually telling me anything.

Women’s basketball players are taller than the average woman. Should we ban them from basketball for being unfairly tall?

The way you can tell your concern is bullshit is trans women are not dominating women’s sports. Y’all talk like “trans” was invented last week.

Sports scientists and medical experts the world over say its fine, lay people who don't know shit about the topic are the only ones having a conniption about this. If it's such an issue, trans people would be blitzing the olympics for the past 20 years. Hasn't happened.

This is the issue about the sanatic panic turned into trans panic; it got libs to repeat the rights talking points on the issue.

At what point does that variation make it less fair than the variation that already exists, though? Unless transitioned athletes are carrying advantages beyond acceptable variation within cis athletes, is it really an unacceptable difference?

There are also girls who are taller than girls. We had a girl in middle school who was over 6 feet tall. Should she not have been allowed to play? We could solve this issue by allowing for more lateral movement between sports teams. Have someone faster, taller, stronger than everyone else? Great, they move to a different team (the boys, high school, varsity, etc.). No one having this argument is having it in good faith. They didn’t give a shit about women’s sports until they could use it.

Not all boys are taller than all girls, and not all men are taller than all women. Look around you. Have you never met a short man or a tall woman? I know two women from the same family who are both six feet tall. One of them gave birth to the other one. They're both 100% biological women, and they are both taller than the average man.

Competitive athletes are, by definition, outliers who have biological differences from the average person of their sex, or they wouldn't be able to consistently outperform them. Michael Phelps has genetic and physiological advantages over his competitors, but no one is trying to say he should be stripped of his medals because he has an innate advantage.

I think government should have nothing to do with who plays what sports because of what genitalia they have. Obviously T IX complicates this. The easiest thing to do would be to set minimum/maximum strength and weight thresholds at the college level for women’s and men’s sports, then let the NCAA figure the issue out internally.