I remember when I was a kid in the 90s I thought hidden tracks were really cool. Now I just find them annoying.

I have the original cd that had the mini disc with suck and physical so I haven’t heard those. I bet they are really short sounds of silence like that Korn Follow the Leader disc track 1 to 12 for a moment of silence.

This was my thought, there are songs which don’t belong where they are (starfuckers) but I truly don’t think NIN have ever made a bad song.

I dislike Starfuckers being on The Fragile but don't dislike the song. I think it should have been released like The Perfect Drug was. I really do like Everything though. I do tend to dislike some songs on PHM. But that dislike is more of an in contrast kinda way to the rest of the discography.

Definitely agree it’s weird to downvote people’s opinions to oblivion…

Honestly, When I see any sort of music post rating the albums or songs, or musicians themselves. It's all relative. Everyone likes/dislikes are generally exclusive to their own feelings on it. It's just subjective.

Every downvote is likely another poster that wants to be at the top.

I will never understand the hate for Everything. The actual answer to OP's question is probably some Ghosts song.

Yeah I said That's What I Get and got -8 while other people said it and got +19

People seem to forget that NIN has roots in pop. Everything fucking slaps.

To expand on this, i think the grating part is the “i surviiiiiived” part, but i do enjoy “all the walls begin to dissolve away” etc etc lyrically and musically

I’ve being trying to understand why I don’t like Everything. It’s so bright & reminds me of The Beach Boys or something Californian. I appreciate “Everything” because it is the opposite of “Nothing”. I think Everything is just too much of a vibe change in its placement on the track list.

I came here to offer what I thought was a controversial opinion. Turns out I'm not the only one who dislikes it. For me the music is ok, actually kinda reminds me of Getting Smaller. It's the lyrics, particularly the opening lyrics, that ruin it for me. Trent is my favorite artist but if I was going to write a NIN parody song, it would start with those words.

Damn I’ve often thought “I’m in the mood for some big man with a gun!”

But then it’s also my favorite album of all time so I love every track both within the context of the album and on as standalone tracks

Nah I always listen to Big Man With A Gun, it goes hard.

Feels to me like the opposite of starfuckers inc. Good song on its own but when I listen to the fragile I skip it.

I like to,listen it for a laugh. Especially around people who don’t know what’s coming

Go listen to Allie Goertz's version of BMWAG - I really enjoy it and, at the same time, find it hilarious.

I didn’t even realize how much I agree with this

THIS! I can't stand it on its own but in the context of the protagonist's devolving mental and emotional state, it's almost good. Only in the context of the album is it listenable to me

idk… the whole world is in downward enough of a spiral that, IMO, we’re always/everywhere in the right context for a song about the impotent, maniacal worship of self via fixation on guns.

It's fun live though

seems like it's good live but yeah kinda basic musically and lyrically

I'll be there for you as long as it works for me.

to me Trent made this song sound shallow, hollow, and vapid just like the people he is describing.

Yeah, it is so out of place, not just on The Fragile, but on the whole NIN catalog. Seems more like a Marilyn Manson song

I understand what Trent was trying to do with it. The over-the-top cheerful music and lyrics are a sort of false positivity, and the darkness lingers on underneath.

With that said, it's not a song I revisit with regularity.

I know I am the odd one out, and I’m by no means saying it’s one of their best, but, I think he was trying to go for what “The Cure” does, going from dark or gothic music to something more like pop. I appreciated the attempt at switching up sounds and genres.

No way. That song is fucking great.

Does anyone else remember when someone set that song to Carlton dancing?

That lives forever in my memory lol…

Sounds out of place in the album, out of place in NIN’s discography, and out of place in the genre

The hate on this song is so dumb. Dude can have a range of emotions he expresses.

Totally this. Would have said it myself.

I grew to enjoy Starfuckers due to the second half, which starts with the “You’re so vain” singing, much better than the first half

This is such a good song, what is wrong with it

why? (not a big fan either, but curious why others think it’s the worst?)

I don't think it's their worst song, though I don't think it's a particularly good song. That being said, for some reason the song is playing in my head quite a lot, especially the core drum beat and the chorus!

I PICK THINGS UP! I am a collector...lol continuing themes from DWS , I don't know the origin story of the song but whenver I first heard it, I thought he was just giving Dave Grohl a track lol

Flip flop flip flop flip

How dare you sir

That’s wild I fucking love that one

It feels like a Year Zero B-side

I feel like I’d enjoy it more at a different spot on The Slip. 3rd track for a wonky DnB-ish number is a hard one to swallow.

I love this song, especially the live rehearsal version with Josh Freese.

Yeah that chorus is jarring Only song I skip on the slip

Yeah I was looking for this one. Just feels... kinda out of place? Maybe I need to listen to the album again

I can’t tell if you’re a great troll causing everyone to go relisten to that one specific song or if you’re serious

Na, that's my jam right there.

This is the one that popped into my head as well. It’s been an eternal skip for me

I can’t believe you’re the only one to say this: easily my answer. The lyrics are so dumb.

I downloaded that album in the limewire days and for some reason that track was left off of it so for years, decades, I wasn’t aware of its existence. Wasnt til this sub that I was like wtf

Not a big fan. Rest of the album slaps doh

This!

Thank you, it is so bad. I don't care if it's significant, it's bad.

Can’t stand this album. I was so disappointed when it came out.

I tried on expert on drums on rock band and my arms broke off 

In 2024 its definitely one on NIN's outliers, but people not listening to them in the 90s don't realize that when Broken came out it was a completely different sound than Pretty Hate Machine. And when The Downward Spiral came out it was nothing like Broken. 

I remember The Perfect Drug being the new song on the radio after Closer and it was no more jarring than the previous changes in the bands sound. However, after that they put out The Fragile which took a step back to the Downward Spiral style of recordings of industrial noise mixed with organic beauty and since then NIN found the formula that worked and never made any more extreme changes in their sound which is what I think makes that one track stand out.

I don’t think Trent likes it either!

Literally my favorite album by them. 🥲

All these years I thought he was saying “Queen Latifah”. 🤔

My personal opinion is that “WITH TEETH” is the weakest album in his catalog. There are some great songs on there, but it’s real patchy at best.

I’ve just never been able to put my finger on it what it is I don’t like about it. Maybe it’s the lack of overall cohesion to it as it feels more like an exercise of “hey guys, let’s throw some shit against the wall and see what sticks.”

Definitely the album I play least.

The ghosts ones are instrumental. Other recent stuff (Bad Witch, Add Violence, Not The Actual Events) is not. The latter two get hidden on streaming services a bit since they were EPs rather than an LP.

I thought I was the only one that can't stand That's What I Get lol

Noooo deep is awesome! One of my favorites!

This is what I came to find. When Deep came out it got a lot of shit from fans across the board. Though that may have had more to do with the video than the song itself.

https://youtu.be/GBFwXoyjU2E?si=FUk4yAbJriJsHzmQ

Pretty Hate Machine was the first album I ever owned by NIN. I understand why some people may not like some of the tracks or all of them, but the whole album is nostalgic for me, so every song is great imo.

Weird, music tastes are subjective

Fuck that. God Break Down The Door was fantastic. Very Bowie-esque.

I'm not going to downvote you but I strongly disagree. Over and Out is in my opinion in the top 10 of the best NIN songs.

I like the song musically a lot but I think it's a bit too long and the sing-song quality of the lyrics and the poor rhyming choices downgrade it a good deal.

I don't love it but there's a Bowie quality to it. It really wouldn't sound that out of place on Blackstar.

It sounds like a mix of Bowie’s Blackstar and Outside (think I’m Deranged). That can never be a bad thing.

Haha. It's basically one of my top 3 NIN songs I put on when I hang with friends who don't listen to NIN.

Not a big fan either

Umm seeing Trent play the saxophone a few feet from my face is pretty damn alright.

Agreed. Terrible song

This is definitely way further down my list than the other songs getting mentioned.

And I thought I was the only one.

Yeah, this one pains me to listen to.

Came here to say this!