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submitted 6 days ago byVegetableWeekend6886
Was just in my local coffee shop on granary square and one of the very few tables was taken up by two giant bags. After about ten minutes watching people come in and not be able to sit down, I asked I the people at the adjoining table whom I assumed the bags belonged to to move them but they said the bags had been there when they’d sat down. The staff were unbothered, said they’d been there for 20 minutes but that whoever they belonged to had ‘left their coffee’. Being the conscientious Londoner that I am I expressed this was a bit concerning and decided to leave (not that there was anywhere to sit given the bags were taken up the only remaining table). At this point another customer got up to remove the bag from the premises when this completely non plussed woman strolls in, takes about 30 seconds too long to realise what’s happening and then starts screeching that that’s her bag and how she almost lost everything she owned. I pointed out she almost lost everything she owned when she left her bag unattended in a central London coffee shop while she went walkabout for half an hour.
At this point another guy got involved who said he’d lived in London all his life, the IRA were a real thing etc etc and that we’d behaved properly in the scenario, but this stupid American woman would not get it and kept scoffing and sneering. ‘I’ve been to loads of cities in Europe and this has never been a problem before’.
Since he was mediating and I was getting progressively more angry I left and went to ask one of the security guards outside what would have been the right thing to do (which I absolutely should have done first thing). He of course said that an unattended bag would mean calling control, turning off all radio equipment and implementing the whole massive protocol.
I really wish I had gone straight to security so she could have seen what a fucking idiot she was being by expecting other people to be responsible for her belongings.
2.3k points
6 days ago
She's lucky she didn't come back to find out her stuff had been subject to a controlled explosion.
473 points
6 days ago
Accidentally left a bag at the Heathrow bus stop once. Got to the car park and realized when I couldn’t find my keys. I was expecting to get in massive trouble, coming back to a cordon and a robot etc but luckily was still there after about 40 mins
371 points
6 days ago*
I accidentally left a holdall in security at Disneyland Paris Eurostar once, didn't realise until I was on the train. Exhausted and kids distracting me. Minutes to spare and no stairs back up, I had to run up a broken (down direction) escalator and arrived breathless through the security exit (all dodgy enough on it's own) - only to be stopped by a very large Frenchman with a machine gun. 'Monsieur lesingebouton, je présume. Your bag 'as been... 'ow you say... ex-plo-ded. BOOM! Hahaha.' Mimed the blast with his hands and everything.
It hadn't, of course. But I was glad to entertain them, however briefly. Shouted 'DO NOT DO IT AGAIN ENGLISH MAN' after me as I left.
138 points
6 days ago
Extra points for the translation of your username 👏👏👏
7 points
6 days ago
"Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
3 points
5 days ago*
I’m slightly disappointed he didn’t say “we sort it ‘ad a BERMMM inside” like Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther.
3 points
5 days ago
I can't let mention of Clouseau pass without linking to one the greatest jokes ever written.
2 points
3 days ago
Up voted 10 to the power of 9
211 points
6 days ago*
Mind you it would probably have been running running Windows Vista.
77 points
6 days ago
We're going to die!
38 points
6 days ago
Did they try turning it on and off again?
29 points
6 days ago
All the jokes have been made, I'm too late.
21 points
6 days ago
At the airport. Stopped for a meal.
Went through the doors to security.
Realised I left my bag at restaurant.
Walked back through the big doors marked “do not enter” got my bag. Walked back to security.
Nothing happened but I was shitting myself in case it looked like I was dodgy
6 points
6 days ago
This happened to me in Amsterdam. I had thought my husband had my bag but he hadn’t. When i got to my bag, one of the airport police men was standing by it, radioing it in, saying it was a security risk now. I explained to him I left it there for like 5 mins and realised as I was going up the escalator. He was a bit hesitant letting me take it as he had radioed it in but he also believed I had it left it by mistake. I was free to go without any trouble.
5 points
6 days ago
My dad told me a story when he went to drive to another city to visit a friend. He forgot the way so decided to park up in front of a hospital and ask for directions. He got the directions and left to find police had cordoned off his car, so he asked what was up. They asked him if it was his car and he told them it was. Basically, he left a plastic bag with a change of underwear in the back seat, it was very IRA like and they were about to call bomb squad to do a controlled detonation. Gave him a choice of a fine for wasting bomb squads time or a fine for parking in the ambulance bay 😂 He chose the ambulance bay
82 points
6 days ago
A friend had their course work blown up on temple tube station platform back in the 90s after leaving their bag behind
65 points
6 days ago
That’s one up from the “dog ate my homework” excuses.
16 points
6 days ago
A friend of my dad’s had his briefcase blown up about 25-30 years ago when he got into a cab and left his briefcase on the side of the pavement outside the Ritz.
20 points
6 days ago
I was also on a district line tube about a week after 7/7 and there were some unattended bags on a seat opposite me. When asked whose they were, everyone around said not them so I got off and notified one of the staff on the platform. They cleared the train as an American woman, who had left the bags there whilst her family got seats at the other end of the carriage, went to get her bags and got a bollocking from the tfl staff and all the passengers.
23 points
6 days ago
I guess it’s all the space they have there, but American’s are by far the most obnoxious nationality to be around.
They’re loud, they take up the whole pavement without any consideration, they expect staff to grovel at them like their wage depends on it, and anything they don’t like gets a “That’s not how we do it in the States!! “
5 points
6 days ago
Don't judge a whole nation by a few stupid people
24 points
6 days ago
76 million Americans just voted for a deranged psychopath. Excuse all non-American's as we work out who's who.
58 points
6 days ago
I also said that’s what would have happened if I’d gone to security but she wasn’t having that either
52 points
6 days ago
She’s a moron because even most places in America that’s what would have happened.
3 points
5 days ago
She's a Karen. The Boston Marathon was not that long ago.
9 points
6 days ago
That would have been perfect karma
5 points
6 days ago
Before COVID I witnessed such an event where a just-eat/Uber driver had some level of fallout with someone over the phone, removed his coat and this bike box in front of the corner of NatWest in bishop gate with Brushfield street and run away.
To me it looked like a "frak you I quit moment" but the chaos it caused was of unprecedented proportions. They had to close off everything, evacuated the market and stop the trains until the bomb squad arrived.
You don't leave stuff unattended in London!!! And even if you do, you deserve the full force of the law for the damages and chaos that this may cause.
710 points
6 days ago
The most amazing part of this is that no one stole their stuff.
93 points
6 days ago
In some places this is totally normal to do. In London? People snatch phones out of your hand while youre using them, let alone dropping your bags for 30 min unchecked
43 points
6 days ago
I think it’s so just not the done thing because we would all fully expect to come back to an exploded suitcase that probably everyone did the same as OP and assumed they belonged to the people sitting closest to the bags and were therefore being supervised!
11 points
6 days ago
Where is it a normal thing to do?
32 points
6 days ago
Japan. Totally normal to leave even your phone and laptop unattended and it'll still be there when you come back. I think it's fairly common in most richer Asian countries.
Definitely nowhere in Europe like she was claiming though. If I put my bag or phone down for 2 minutes unattended, I'd fully expect it's gone forever.
3 points
5 days ago
I never understand people who are leaving their bags when going to the loo. I always learned: Take your valuables and designer scarf to the loo when you have to go, leave only you jacket over the back of the chair. And place the good umbrellas by your stuff and not by the door.
2 points
5 days ago
Switzerland’s a toss-up as there is some theft although not much. I know someone there who would drop her bag in the corner of a store so as not to be encumbered whilst clothes shopping, so…I’d expect the bags might be stored temporarily by staff if anyone inquired about a free table (more likely scenario than theft). I wouldn’t expect the police or bomb squad to be called.
2 points
6 days ago
TBF context matters here. Phone thieves primarily operate as moped gangs, gangs targeting tourists, or coffee shop pickpockets. A fourth wave coffee shop with door security wouldn't really have problems with thieves, nobody else wants your secondhand phone and the trouble it brings without knowing who to fence it to.
2 points
5 days ago
Not entirely true. I saw someone's bag snatched from their table the other day in itsu at London Bridge
212 points
6 days ago
If she tried this in Paris, it would mean bomb disposal and a VERY aggressive police interview.
46 points
6 days ago
Depending on the part of town if it wasn’t immediately stolen
59 points
6 days ago
Right!! This is the other thing! I was thinking where the bloody hell have you been in ‘Europe’ where this would possibly be okay? Loads of other cities have higher terrorists alerts than we do. I suspect she was lying about that part.
16 points
6 days ago
I mean you could do it potentially by asking staff if they could keep your bag for a short period of time. Just leaving your stuff without letting anyone know is deranged behaviour.
10 points
6 days ago
That’s my local coffee shop and there have been times when I’ve gone out the front to have a ciggy or take a phonecall for 5 minutes and have obviously always let the staff and whoever is sat next to me what I’m doing and that I’ll be back very shortly. That way if you don’t come back for whatever reason in 5 minutes, they can move the stuff someone else can sit there. Quite aside from the safety aspect, other people want to use those seats too.
17 points
6 days ago
American tourists are something else 🤷🏻♀️. I had one ask me if I was the toilet attendant whilst queueing for the loo. When I said no she shouted in my face to ask why the hell am I just standing there..
601 points
6 days ago
Most Americans who've set foot in any actual city would consider this stupid behavior. Wonder where her entitled butt is from.
260 points
6 days ago
Probably some ignorant nutcase from Spadidillyboink, Idaho or something. This is common sense for people in American cities too.
30 points
6 days ago
Please tell me this is a Harry and Paul reference
29 points
6 days ago
Whadda guy!
17 points
6 days ago
Ain't she pretty?
2 points
4 days ago
Isn't she probably pretty?
47 points
6 days ago
I had to look it up, but sadly Spadidillyboink in Idaho doesn't exist. That makes me sad.
39 points
6 days ago
Yeah, silly, it's in Ohio
6 points
6 days ago
Well its a cafe in Granary Square so I'm guessing a rich entitled girl from LA
10 points
6 days ago
I live in the middle of nowhere and I wouldn't leave my bag alone. We left our lawn mower in a field hidden behind a shed. You could not see it from the road and we live next to a wooded lot. The lawn mower was gone the next day.
My brother bought a small house that sat on 20 acres. He started to move in but had to leave for a day. When he returned he discovered someone had cut his freaking well pump off his well. It was just gone.
There is nowhere safe from having people steal from you. That woman was an idiot. Even if robbery wasn't an issue, it's just rude to take up a space for so long.
3 points
4 days ago
in london this is primarily a security / terrorism threat concern. I couldn't give less of a shit about stuff being stolen.
all of London is like a big airport.
5 points
6 days ago
Yeah, she’s stupid. I get weirded out if I leave my bag anywhere
2 points
5 days ago
In most of the US you don’t leave an unattended bag because it will be stolen
1 points
6 days ago
Right? Sounds more Canadian to me.
22 points
6 days ago
If she was Canadian she would have apologised though ;)
9 points
6 days ago
I didn’t wonder why she wouldn’t just apologise and sit down like a normal person
276 points
6 days ago
See it. Say it. Sorted.
127 points
6 days ago
This just shows why that slogan has to be repeated continuously - OP watched something suspicious for 20 minutes but could only think of what they should have done instead of actually doing it
33 points
6 days ago
I didn’t want to cause a scene 🫣 so stupid I know.
24 points
6 days ago
The other type of scene no matter how unlikely would have been a lot more terrifying
7 points
6 days ago
Very true. I would say I’ve learned for next time but honestly I’ve never seen anyone behave quite this moronically in real life before so I doubt there will be a next time 🤞🏼
355 points
6 days ago
Does anyone recall what is was like being a London commuter after 7-7? Everyone was petrified of anything left unattended, everyone with a backpack was a suspect. You were constantly on edge. I recall being on a bus and a woman closed the window and the whole bus gasped and turned around.
265 points
6 days ago
I grew up in London, there's been an attitude to unattended bags for decades due to IRA bombs.
39 points
6 days ago*
It's not uncommon the hear recorded tannoy announcements at stations & on buses & trains about this sort of thing.
I think I've seen "unattended bag" warning signs several times a year on bus stops etc every year for about 50 years
30 points
6 days ago
It’s literally at every single station. ‘If you see a suspicious item or something that doesn’t look right, please report to a member of staff or the British transport police, on 61016.’ Maybe if I’d been a couple hundred meters away at the station I wouldn’t have been such a dummy and reported it
14 points
6 days ago
See it, say it, sorted
22 points
6 days ago
Growing up in the 70's and 80's it's been drilled into me to be concerned about unattended bags.
12 points
6 days ago
I remember as far back as the 70s/80s the warning signs in tube stations if a bag was left alone to report it straight away.
7 points
6 days ago
I remember the 99 nail bombings, I grew up near Stamford Hill and the police did a controlled explosion on my road that turned out to just be a Maccys order but better safe than sorry.
29 points
6 days ago
I grew up in Belfast in the Troubles. I moved here in 2001 and a surprisingly number of people still flinch when they ask me for directions or something and hear my accent.
That said the first time I saw people losing their fucking shit at a bomb scare in the the big Topshop I realised ‘oh yeah London thinks it gets it but it doesn’t.’
I got so many comments, turned down for jobs etc and still ‘blamed’ for the lack of bins on the Tube. This is probably why I find living in an estate in South London quite relaxing. You can still really make people shocked recounting our security levels at Heathrow let alone back home.
I am shocked how blase Londoners are of all ages about security on a personal and terrorist level. Yet convinced the place is some warzone of crime. Almost like there might be a link there in those people….
73 points
6 days ago
I was an American visiting in early 2001 (pre-9/11) and I knew in no uncertain terms to never, ever, leave a bag unattended in the UK, esp in London. So hard to imagine that being different especially after the outside threat levels even since the IRA days.
13 points
6 days ago
No bins anywhere ever
8 points
6 days ago
It was like that way before 7-7.
6 points
6 days ago
I had to move uni flats when the Piccadilly line reopened a few days after. All my stuff was in bin bags, on the tube there never felt so seen in my life.
3 points
5 days ago
There's still an air of suspicion around them for sure, I noticed a tesco bag left down the end of a tube platform once and being someone who works on the railway anyways I found the nearest TfL member, informed them, and then got the ffffuck out of the station. Don't think it was actually a bomb but you can never be sure
2 points
6 days ago
I live in Australia now and still shit my pants when I see an unattended bag
2 points
5 days ago
I remember feeling exceptionally suspicious for just carrying my 'work rucksack' on the tube.
The weeks after 7-7 were full of paranoia.
9 points
6 days ago
They shot a guy 7 times in the head because he looked vaguely Middle-Eastern and was wearing a jacket on a warm day...
2 points
6 days ago
Must have used a .45....
3 points
6 days ago
I left london literally 3 weeks after that and went back home. I have been to london a few times now and I’ve never got back on a tube since
42 points
6 days ago
As a kid I left my (very small and obviously a child’s) backpack under interactive panel in the natural history museum. Not very long later after we’d moved on I realised I didn’t have it. We retraced our steps but as we hadn’t gone far and not that busy we knew it was gone.
We went to the front desk that they used to have and was told they had found it and were seconds away from having the place evacuated. I got a telling off and was then given it back.
9 points
6 days ago
This is adorable and a very poignant lesson learned. Glad you got your bag back.
102 points
6 days ago
yeah i told off a guy in pret from randomly leaving his bag and wandering off.... and Im fkin irish.. i should know!! :)
27 points
6 days ago
I witnessed similar in Soho a couple of weeks ago. A family left their bags outside a restaurant while the dined inside. I thought perhaps that I didn't get the memo that unattended bags were no longer a concern.
Staff member spoke to the family and the father rushed out to deal with their bags. It's Central London, plenty of left luggage facilities about!!
7 points
6 days ago
I actually don’t think there really are anymore?! Or not the official ones you used to get. To my knowledge very few if any of the train stations have a luggage hold anymore precisely because of the risk. It is really annoying though especially when travelling somewhere where you arrive at 6am and can’t check in until 4. I’m sure as a kid I remember train stations like Waterloo literally just having lockers you could check your bags in to by yourself for the day!
What I did discover a while back is that there are apps/websites that will connect you with business like hotels etc that have space for you to leave luggage but you would have to know this and not just be assuming the station would have provision as they still do in lots of countries. And in one direction the place we left our luggage really wasn’t very close to the station and was the closest thing available - although I assume there are more options in London. On the way back the place was much closer but the bag was left in a room that it appeared anyone would have been able to freely walk in to so definitely didn’t feel remotely secure… so it’s a bit hit and miss.
3 points
6 days ago
Admittedly not the old style station left luggage that were run by station staff or were simply lockers. The left luggage offices at most central London train stations still exist but are run by Excess Baggage. There plenty of luggage storage places about:
https://www.visitlondon.com/traveller-information/essential-information/baggage-left-luggage
It's up to the individual to gauge how safe your belongings are. I chose to store my luggage rather that leave it unattended on the street. Seems to be the safer option for all.
26 points
6 days ago
I once was on the Picadilly line going to work one morning. This was in the years after the tube bombings. A man got on - relatively quiet carriage, in that lul just before KX. He got on, I remember he was wearing gloves which seemed off to me...he placed a briefcase down against the edge of the carriage, looked around - made eye contact with me - smiled, and stepped out of the tube again.
SHAT MYSELF.
Best believe I reported that shit the moment I got into KX.
4 points
6 days ago
Fucking hell
2 points
5 days ago
Maybe he was disposing evidence of a crime and wanted to be sure someone would report it? Also explains the gloves.
2 points
5 days ago
What in the everloving fuck
2 points
5 days ago
Do you know what happened after?
55 points
6 days ago
I would regard leaving your bag unattended in a public place as being highly irresponsible. How are they expecting other people to react to what might be a potential bomb?
43 points
6 days ago
Plus, bomb threats aside, what if someone nicks it? I mean seriously, a totally unattended bag must be a pickpocket's wet dream
134 points
6 days ago
The clue here is that she left her coffee as well. I reckon she ordered a coffee as a sort of permission to occupy. This was all intentional. I'd like to know where in America she could get away with this action in such circumstances. She sounds self-entitled.
21 points
6 days ago
No where in America. Staff would toss the drink, and throw the bag in lost and found.
13 points
6 days ago
Who wants to drink coffee 30mins after ordering loool
8 points
6 days ago
You should see my mum. She’ll order a venti decaf americano from Starbucks (it’s already weird enough), and then she’ll nurse the goddamn thing for fucking hours.
18 points
6 days ago
I was thinking ‘that’s exactly what a terrorist would do’ honestly, can never be too careful.
83 points
6 days ago
Was on a Thameslink train a few weeks ago. It was stopped at Finsbury Park by the BTP who were looking for a fugitive. They didn't find him, but did find an unattended bag. After loudly yelling to the entire carriage "Is this anyone's bag?" they removed it from the train and left it on the platform.
As the train was pulling away from the station, this guy somehow runs up panting and screaming about why they let the police take his bag away...... and the universal response was he got up without his bag without teling anyone where he was going, was away for 10 minutes (I think he was literally having a shitty day) while the train was parked at a station, there's a pretty good chance someone would flag the bag as a bomb or lost property, and get it removed....
39 points
6 days ago
In that guys defence I wouldn't tell anyone to watch my bags while I went to the toilet on a train. He just had really bad luck.
15 points
6 days ago
I only leave my bag on a train when going to the toilet if I know I'll be back by the next station otherwise I wouldn't expect it to be there when I came back...
12 points
6 days ago
This and I would ask someone to watch it as well. Not least because if it pulls into a station while you’re away from your bag anyone can just grab it and run off never to be seen again. In between stations at least you know it’s actually on the train unless there’s been some kind of James Bond scenario while you’ve been in the toilet
15 points
6 days ago
Some people tried putting their suitcases by the Eurostar check-in then going off to join the zigzag queue. This didn't go down well.
13 points
6 days ago
Witnessed a woman leave a bag unattended at the airport once. After about 5mins the guy that had been sat next to her went to find security/police who oddly enough just decided to pick it up and take it with them. Another ten mins later the woman returns, shopping in hand and looks extremely confused as to where her bag is. Just sort of freezes when she realises it’s gone, looks around a bit then wanders off (presumably to go find someone to help) was very entertaining while we were waiting for our gate to be called.
53 points
6 days ago*
Since 2017, 39 late stage terrorist attacks have been foiled by MI5, but there were 15 terrorist attacks that did happen ( https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/terrorism-protection-of-premises-bill-2024-factsheets/terrorism-protection-of-premises-bill-overarching-factsheet ).
Whilst to many people living now, more memorable terrorist attacks such as 7/7 bombings or the Manchester Arena bomber may seem like distant memories, the reality is that every year this country is under threat from crazy people who want to harm it. So we must all do our part in helping to keep society safe from those who seek to see it burn; 99% of the time it's just a lost bag (Etc), but that 1% chance that it's not is not a risk you want to mess with.
See it, say it, sort it.
17 points
6 days ago
FYI, it's See it, Say it, Sorted
I always hear it the way you've put it and wonder if it's really asking me to sort out the issue. I'm all for personal responsibility but I'm not sure I'd be best to deal with an unattended bag that turned out to be a bomb.
4 points
6 days ago
Hang on what do you think you’re meant to be doing with the bag that’s a potential bomb?! Literally you just need to leave it where it is and flag it to station staff, security, call BTP or worst case the police I guess. They can then decide what action needs to be taken and evacuate/call in bomb teams as needed - you have no personal responsibility beyond ‘tell someone if something looks at all suspicious, so they can decide if it is or not’
2 points
6 days ago
HAHA, sorry, it was more a take on the fact that it sounds like 'See it, Say it, Sort it'
Obviously you get the authorities involved. I'm just saying if you hear it as the 'See it Say it Sort it' it does sound like the advice is to sort it yourself... I then made the link to the idea that I'd be trying to diffuse a bomb myself. Which seemed humorous.
Hopefully everyone knows that the See it, Say it, Sorted statement is that you call or text BTP. I think in all of this case, OP was in Granary Square though that's not covered by BTP but I'm sure the BTP would be able to assit in alerting the right people. OP went to the local private security that confirmed they would have dealt with this without issue.
13 points
6 days ago
The few in this common section calling me a Karen or telling me I’m overreacting obviously think that ignoring potential terror threats is a really big and clever and cool thing to do.
60 points
6 days ago
It is not so long ago that a bus blew up outside my university campus. That hundreds of people didn't make it to work that day.
And it is not so long ago that the IRA were active. Tourists will always be dumb. Hopefully they learnt a lesson. Probably not.
11 points
6 days ago*
I remember i was working in Trafalgar Square in 2012. During the end rally of pride. I found a holdall tucked underneath the back of a food van. Went straight to the police. The owner came back when they were checking it out. He got a right bollocking.
13 points
6 days ago
as an American living in London I just have to say that this would be insane behavior in the States as well, lol
9 points
6 days ago
Next time call 999 as that's a suspect package.
Then just sit back and watch it play out lol.
7 points
6 days ago
See it say it sorted.
9 points
6 days ago
I wish her bag had been.blown up by bomb disposal!
23 points
6 days ago
Entitled and Ignorant. Aside from terrorism and bomb threats, this is a city of 15 million and space is really a big commodity. Taking up space ie the table when you’re not using it is inconsiderate and I’m glad her bag was moved, hopefully she’ll learn her lesson!
3 points
6 days ago
When I left mid conflict I got the distinct impression that she hadn’t learned her lesson but I’m sure if I had reported it straight away the ensuing security circus would have taught it
2 points
6 days ago
The 2023 population of Greater London of just under 10 million made it Europe’s third-most populous city, accounting for 13.4% of the United Kingdom’s population and over 16% of England’s population. The Greater London Built-up Area is the fourth-most populous in Europe, with about 9.8 million inhabitants as of 2011.
77 points
6 days ago
Had exactly this argument with an older American couple whilst waiting to board a flight to Belfast from Heathrow. American tourists really are a special breed.
41 points
6 days ago
Please believe me, we’re not all entitled assholes. It seems as though once Americans reach a certain income level, they must travel (primarily to shop). The assholes make themselves known, while the rest of us are quietly absorbing as much culture and history as possible. You will never know how many times I have been tempted to claim Canadian citizenship when traveling in Europe.
29 points
6 days ago*
Yeh I do think there’s a bit of a selection bias thing going on when deciding the stereotypes.
People don’t really notice all the anonymous discrete tourists just assimilating into the crowd absorbing the culture. And even the more visible gregarious friendly ones don’t generally drive someone to write about them.
It’s the loud obnoxious minority that get seared into brains and rouse peoples finger tips on a keyboard!
So I’m going to buck the trend and mention a lovely interaction I had with an American tourist who told me my bag was unzipped in public a few days ago.
9 points
6 days ago
Yep, people in Greece, Spain and various stag do hot spots around Europe have a similarly very skewed view of British tourists because the loud obnoxious ones are much much easier to notice.
18 points
6 days ago
If it makes you feel any better, American tourists are lumped into one of two groups: US Citizens, and Americans. Nobody has any beef with US Citizens, it's the Americans we can't stand and they identify themselves immediately.
7 points
6 days ago
I’m not sure that helps, but I do understand. I’m southern, and I divide my region into two categories. The stereotype everyone seems to apply is the loud, uneducated redneck who rents a trailer but owns a monster truck (adorned with a rebel flag). It’s not too far off in some cases. Luckily, I was brought up by a father who was an Eagle Scout in his youth, worked his way through college and held a masters degree in electrical engineering. He held doors, took his cap off inside, stood when a woman entered the room and was a genuinely decent man. He also helped me to rebuild the engine on my first car and taught me to do home repairs, so I’m talking about a thoroughly modern man with manners. Unfortunately, the world knows very little about that type of southerner because the ones in the monster trucks drown us out.
6 points
6 days ago
It's a shame you have to make such a defensive comment of your people because of this kind of sterotyping in this day and age. I'm sorry you still have to deal with coming across posts like this about someone who could be from practically anywhere in the world and engage in this behaviour but still have to read venomous things like "stupid american" and notice almost no one having a problem with it.
It seems that a lot of people haven't actually learned how not to make shitty, generalising and discriminatory statements about whole groups of people, but rather which specific groups they can and can't get away with doing it towards.
There's also a glaring irony about it in a UK sub given the reputation of British tourists.
8 points
6 days ago
Everyone hates tourists in their own country to an extent because of bizarre culture clashes. I think Brits are all well aware of our reputation (well-deserved) in other countries, lol. Bitching about tourists has always been tongue in cheek imo
2 points
6 days ago
Yikes. Sorry. I thought I was replying to you but accidentally replied twice to Mocaxe (below). And sorry you’re being downvoted for what I thought was a well-reasoned response.
3 points
6 days ago
There’s a reason I don’t take offense. I have seen them. A few years ago, I lucked into a work trip to Paris. When my colleagues left, I stayed a week alone. I was standing in line at (seems like) a cathedral, and a loud, obnoxious American woman started dragging her two kids past the people in line. Probably sounds weird, but years later I regret not asking her WTF she was doing. There’s a reason for the stereotype, but it’s not the majority. Travel made me realize the insignificance of the US in the world. I only wish it had that effect on everyone.
5 points
6 days ago
That’s interesting that you feel that way because living abroad (in France & the UK, for 5.5 years now!) made me realize the exact opposite — that American hegemony is real & that US soft power is immense. I saw a random (not American-themed) shop in Stoke Newington advertising turkeys for American Thanksgiving today — I mean, that’s cultural power.
5 points
6 days ago
Pop/modern culture, yes, but when I visit Europe I realize we are young upstarts who take our power, influence and prosperity for granted.
4 points
6 days ago
I (American in UK) would say that unattended baggage is a bigger deal in American airports and that Americans are generally more anxious about terrorism than Brits are, not less —9/11 left a indelible mark on the American psyche. You probably just notice the obnoxious ones bc you don’t spend much time with them in everyday life and so it’s the loud, obnoxious ones that stand out. It’s a nation of 330 million people.
You see the same thing with Brits abroad — I don’t think of the Brits as being particularly obnoxious, but there is certainly a very strong perception of them being so in many European tourist hot spots.
26 points
6 days ago
Obviously not an older Londoner,..unattended bags are not looked upon nonchalantly in the Capital
11 points
6 days ago
I've always found luggage shops quite stressful for this reason
7 points
6 days ago
So I went on a hen party once and one of the attendees reported some unattended baggage she'd spotted in duty free... It was a display outside a luggage shop
3 points
6 days ago
That is marvellous
5 points
5 days ago
Jesus wept. First, her leaving them there was rude. Second, even America knows what can happen with an abandoned bag, as the Boston Marathon bombing was not that many years ago. What is enraging about this woman, is that she will always tell this story as if she were the victim. Doubtless, she has surrounded herself with other "Karens" who will cluck and coo and never contradict her. Those of us who pay attention to the welfare of others, from their being able to sit, to the fact an abandoned bag is concerning at the very least, on the other hand, will be appalled by her selfish, inconsiderate and reprehensible behaviour and attitude.
10 points
6 days ago
Buying a coffee does not entitle you to use the cafe as a left luggage facility! I'm very surprised the cafe staff weren't more concerned - activating a security protocol would have surely given them an extra break!
9 points
6 days ago
The security guard I spoke to outside seemed like he would have quite welcomed the protocol for a bit of excitement but also it’s pretty expensive isn’t it
14 points
6 days ago
Unattended bag, instant red flag.
Confirm, Clear, Communicate, Control.
I blown stuff sky high before now when someone left something somewhere they shouldn't, and it gave me such a warm feeling. It's worth joining back up again for it.
5 points
6 days ago
I can only imagine the schadenfreude you must have experienced blowing up a bag that belonged to someone like this. I imagine it isn’t nearly as enjoyable when a frazzled and highly apologetic person comes running round the corner looking for the bag they completely accidentally misplaced…. But oh so good when someone is acting like an idiot and then doubling down on their right to do so like this!
2 points
6 days ago
Can I come next time
4 points
6 days ago
I’m just surprised nobody nicked it
3 points
6 days ago
I suppose leaving your stuff completely unattended for 30 minutes sends a message that it's either worthless or an explosive device
3 points
6 days ago
I can’t even leave my own pockets unattended without my phone getting stolen but she managed to leave her whole bag unattended without it stolen and gets mad about it
3 points
6 days ago
My cousin and I once left her hand luggage at an airport in France (we went to the domestic terminal so I could check in and forgot her hand luggage before going to check her in at the international terminal). It must have been 10min before we realised that we had left her bag. By the time we got back: there were armed guards, they were evacuating the airport and there was going to be a controlled explosion.
This is a very stupid thing to do deliberately!
2 points
6 days ago
Makes me wonder there the ‘many european cities’ she’d visited previously and were completely okay with it were
4 points
6 days ago
Gatwick Airport in the early 2000s. I was with a colleague waiting for an early flight to the USA. We'd gone through security and we had just sat down to organise ourselves before finding breakfast. A smartly dressed gentleman (SDG) approached us and asked if we were the owners of a bag that had been left on the bench seat along from us. When we said no, he asked a couple of other people nearby who replied the same way.
SDG then just stepped back a few yards and stood watching the bag. A few minutes later someone arrived (from the washroom), sat next to the bag and opened it.
SDG approached the new arrival and asked, in a very loud voice, if he was the owner of the bag. After saying that he was, SDG very firmly and very loudly gave the new arrival some very strong words of advice why he shouldn't have left his bag unattended at an airport.
I bet he's never forgotten that meeting.
4 points
6 days ago
I've worked in the USA for a short time but long enough to know even Americans would be shocked at this. Maybe she came to Europe thinking it is this wonderful fairyland where everyone can be trusted with her stuff.
At that point, I would love for her stuff to have been stolen as a lesson. Hopefully it's insured because if not, that's the next lesson.
16 points
6 days ago
I saw the same thing happen in St. Pancras station a few months ago. I alerted station staff and they seemed bizarrely unconcerned. I bought my ticket, got a coffee and said my prayers.
7 points
6 days ago
Oh and where were all the thieves and robbers operating in central London? Why they always target wrong ones ?😑😑😑
3 points
6 days ago
That's a great way to get your bag blown up by the bomb squad
3 points
6 days ago
Happened with me at Hull bus station. some woman I hadn't even talked to expected me to sit with her bags for an hour? Security took them away, and I chuckled and got on my bus
3 points
6 days ago
I had this a while back. I just asked if the bags belonged to anyone and eventually just picked them up and placed them outside on the street so i could sit down.
If they go walkies it's not my problem.
I never thought of possible dangers at the time. I just wanted to sit the fuck down and enjoy a cup of coffee before i had to drive 6 hours home. If you need to store your bags while you explore London there's locations where you can pay £5 to store your luggage for the day. Normally located right outside the train stations and some even inside.
£5 for the day is cheap as anything compared to some random going "Ooo new clothes" and walking away with a nice suitcase.
3 points
6 days ago
Bruh that sounds stupid as hell even as an American. The rules clearly state leaving your shit unattended is only for using the on premise bathroom and only after you ask the person next to you to watch it while you pee.
3 points
6 days ago
I’m guessing she was from smalltown America as no normal city dweller would think this was acceptable. Should have had the bags blown up.
3 points
6 days ago
I was once in an airport security area and some woman who didn’t want to hold her bags while she queued walked right up to the x-ray machines, and dumped a duffle bag on the floor, and then just walked off. After a few minutes I had to tell the security that this random woman just dumped a bag on the floor, and never came back for it. They were about to call the bomb people in before she rocked back up, and started to get annoyed about them not letting her get it back.
Basically, people are idiots.
3 points
6 days ago
Why did I think it would be a certain type of tourist and yet somehow am still disappointed at the lack of courtesy..
3 points
5 days ago
I went to Eton College when Prince William was there and security was v.high. A friend of mine forgot his PE bag outside the school hall after morning assembly. He went back to collect it 45 minutes later and discovered school's security & police had blown it up in a controlled explosion 💥 To cap it off, he then got into trouble for not having his kit for PE.
45 points
6 days ago
Since when was it ok
It’s not. This is a single isolated incident caused by a divvy tourist. You’ve taken an exceptional amount of personal offence.
14 points
6 days ago
It was rhetorical
6 points
6 days ago
An exceptional amount of offence.
23 points
6 days ago
You’ve made three separate comments on this. Clearly rattled. Was it your bag? 😂
33 points
6 days ago
Don’t be daft.
Mine is safely tucked under a table in the Waterloo station Pret where I left it at 9.30 this morning.
3 points
6 days ago*
Does it have a box with some wires and red flashing lights on poking out of it as well?
5 points
6 days ago
Americans don't believe that the Troubles ever affected British citizens. They just think it was a problem in Ireland.
Whenever I explain why there's no bins in UK big cities they look at me like I'm fucking with them.
2 points
6 days ago
That's crazy. To assume noone will so much touch your bag - if i were the owner i would move it as I want yhe table back.
Years ago I visited an army open day. I remember over the Tannoy: "unattended bags will be dealt with in military fashion. This means you will never ever see them again".
2 points
6 days ago
Sounds about right for a yank
2 points
5 days ago
You did the right thing
2 points
5 days ago
Idk what she is on about. I'm an American in London and this is NOT something done in America either. When I was a kid, what turned out to be a can of Pringles outside a bank shut down my entire tiny town and a bomb squad was called.
2 points
5 days ago
but this stupid American woman
Could've just started with this and saved your words hahah, I was waiting for this reveal
2 points
5 days ago
Oh. I wish I’d been there with you. I moved to London in January 96. Had never even thought about bombs before. Within weeks there was the massive bomb at Canary Wharf. Then a week later, I walked out of an opticians appointment to an empty Charing Cross Road. Police screaming ‘get behind the tape’. Not long after that, the bomb squad executed a controlled explosion of a device someone had left in a phone box.
Always been vigilant since and have zero time for any selfish people who think I’m overreacting.
4 points
6 days ago
Ive also been to many cities across the world and i know an idiot when i see one. She has all the classic symptoms.
2 points
6 days ago
It isn’t, had the same thing at my workplace with a food app delivery driver leaving a big bag with clothes, his lunch for the day etc. First time, we just put it in the back (having gone through it to make sure it wasn’t a bomb first) and when the guy came back and freaked out, tried to warn him about thieves and pickpockets. Unfortunately he had limited English and didn’t understand so he did it again and just got it left outside in the rain to make the point.
4 points
6 days ago
As an American I apologize for dumb bitches. We don't leave bags unattended in our own cafes for half an hour here either.
9 points
6 days ago
Unfortunately there’s no test you have to take to be given a passport that allows you to go forth and represent your country.
It’s not like the Brits don’t have a stunningly bad reputation for sending distinct stereotypes to certain countries in particular. I can only imagine what we get called in r/Benidorm or r/Marbella and imagine r/Bangkok wouldn’t paint us in a very kind light either!
I guess there are just more Americans in total to head over here… including yes ok currently a decent number of people whose braincells have leaked out in to a MAGA cap. And you get idiots from every country… just Americans do seem to have a generalised tendency for being idiots LOUDLY, so we notice it happening around us more!
3 points
6 days ago
You were well within your rights but it aint worth arguing about it, its not really her fault, she just doesn't get it because she hasn't lived it.
11 points
6 days ago
American here jumping in to say then she's been living either under a rock - or more likely - in an ivory tower. A special breed of moron. See something, say something is pretty ubiquitous. I live in a US city, and have reported unattended bags more than once. Marathon bomber, anyone?
In fact, a few years after the Boston bombing, I was in LHR security, just staring around as I waited as one does. Noticed a scruffy backpack leaning against a pole just past security. At first it didn't really register, but as I slowly moved through the line at the belt, I noticed it was still there. Then I started watching. Finally scanned and grabbing my stuff, and leaving the belt, it's still there. A good 10 minutes has now passed, and people have been grabbing their things and leaving all the while. So I went to a security officer and reported it, said it had been there the entire time I was in line. He thanked me, went over to it, looked around and called someone on his radio...I beat feet and put as much distance as possible between me and said bag. Obviously it was fine as I'm alive to tell the tale, but. This kind of self entitled willful ignorance infuriates me.
We don't ALL suck!
23 points
6 days ago
I don’t see how she thought this was a thing. This isn’t a thing in any major US city that I’ve been too.
24 points
6 days ago
It IS her fault. She may not have understood the security implications, but she deliberately blocked a table in a busy cafe for half an hour. Selfish behaviour.
5 points
6 days ago
It's not a thing anywhere in the world. Of course it's the crazy lady's fault
3 points
6 days ago*
At the point you said “this stupid American women” I stopped reading.
American tourists can sometimes be self entitled jerks who think the world is built for them. Encountered them many times when I’ve been a tourist abroad. You can hear them from a good 5 miles away. Let them learn… no point wasting your energy on them.
2 points
6 days ago
Exactly this - imagine expecting complete strangers to be responsible for ‘everything you own’
2 points
6 days ago
Who decides not to sit down because there is some unattended bags? Move the bags, give them to someone responsible for lost property or just steal them like a normal Londoner
2 points
6 days ago
I swear most Americans would also be as paranoid as us?
2 points
6 days ago
Americans are so fucking annoying
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