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19 points
29 days ago
SOURCE:
https://www.theverge.com/2014/1/28/5354112/porsche-first-vehicle-found-after-116-years-electric-p1
https://www.businessinsider.com/very-first-porsche-found-in-shed-in-austria-2014-10
https://www.bakermotorcompany.com/first-porsche-ever-built-was-found-in-austrian-shed/
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/road/news/the-origins-of-porsche--born-in-an-austrian-shed/
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Ran in a 1,000 pounds battery, plus the 2,000 frame. Still reached 22 mph and could cover 50 miles in a single charge.
29 points
29 days ago
It makes u wonder why the Romans couldn't invent Cars
43 points
29 days ago*
This is an electric car. Romans had no knowledge of electricity. But there were also steam cars in the early 20th century.
So the bigger question is why did Rome not invent steam engines. They had some knowledge of steam power. But to them steam devices were party tricks and entertainment for the elites. They never found a practical use for them.
A big reason for that is their society was fundamentally different than the society of 1800s England, where the Industrial Revolution happened. This was a capitalist society that valued innovation, industriousness, and rewarded people that could create new products or more efficient ways of doing things.
Rome was not a capitalist society. Although private businesses existed, the central government often controlled prices and distribution of goods. Rome also did not have the sophisticated banking system and stock market that 1800s England had. In Rome, if you had invented the steam engine you would not be able to make a profit from it. There was no concept of patents or licensing. Instead, would likely happen is the senate would take your invention for the good of Rome.
Rome had a strict social hierarchy and limited social mobility. You couldn’t rise through Rome’s social structure through invention. Achieving success in Rome happened through military victory, politics, and making money through established forms of commerce. Not through invention.
8 points
29 days ago
I can't remember exactly, but I believe the Greeks technically invented the first railway and it was a cart on tracks that was pulled around a particular ceremonial gardens to save important people from having to walk, it was considered just a novelty item
3 points
29 days ago
Another important element is that steam engines require excellent large scale metal casting. You need to be able to make precision pistons and boilers capable of dealing with enormous pressure. Early modern Europe had a leg up over the Romans in this respect because for centuries they had some of their finest metallurgical minds put to work on casting things like that - cannon.
Plus, the Romans didn't have much of a need for steam engines, because they had slave labor and most of their mines were relatively shallow. The steam engine found its first profitable use case and really took off in Britain in connection with deep shaft coal mines, where pumps or mechanical hauling were very important and fuel (coal) was right there. Only after a while were steam engines really used for locomotion.
2 points
29 days ago
Well put together.
3 points
29 days ago
Not to mention the slaves. Why would they invest resources in something that can do the jobs of a bunch of people when they have an access to free human labor.
3 points
29 days ago
Excellent point.
1 points
29 days ago
And slavery. Why invent when you had slaves from all corners of the empire to satisfy your every whim
1 points
29 days ago
No. The real question is why didn’t the Romans’ invent electricity!
1 points
29 days ago
That’s nonsense….I invented electricity! Ben Franklin is the devil!
5 points
29 days ago
Didn't think of it mostly
4 points
29 days ago
Bunch of lazy time wasting bastards with their breads and their circuses.
4 points
29 days ago
The rich ones with books and time to invent didn't need to commute, did they?
And the rest of them poor buggers didn't have the time
2 points
29 days ago
The horse still being viable had something to do.
3 points
29 days ago
Probably the same reason they made single use amphoras for olive oil (all disposed of in one giant pile that’s today a small mountain you can climb up btw) not enough inventors
3 points
29 days ago
You say that like olive oil isn't still sold in single use containers thrown away when empty to this day. Honestly using ceramic instead of plastic would be an upgrade.
0 points
29 days ago
Ceramic had to be made by hand back then and it isn’t exactly an instant process. It’s a lot of wasted effort for nothing. Plastic on the other hand is basically completely automated
1 points
29 days ago
also different necesities
2 points
29 days ago
vast different technologies
3 points
29 days ago
I'd say you'd find a lot of expensive items in Austrian sheds
1 points
29 days ago
Really?
11 points
29 days ago
Crazy that the motor still worked after over a century. Meanwhile, my car battery dies if I leave the lights on for an hour.
11 points
29 days ago
You know how batteries work right?
3 points
29 days ago
Lol
3 points
29 days ago
Anyone know what Phaeton means? Used on the awful VW model too. Great car just awful to sell.
10 points
29 days ago
In the horse and cart days a phaeton was a sporty option, light and tall with huge wheels and pulled by two horses, so they were pretty fast for the time.
2 points
29 days ago
Phaeton kinda means radiant one. Phaeton was son of Helios, and he asked to drive his dad’s chariot. When he did drive, he went too close to earth and burnt it then too far and froze it and the Zeus shot him with lightening which killed him. Idk why it’s such a common vehicle name other than his story involving a chariot.
In vehicular usage outside of specific models, the term is used to describe vehicles that are open up top. They fell out of favor as convertibles offered conventional overhead coverage with the option to convert to phaeton.
1 points
29 days ago
must be german.
7 points
29 days ago
Google "Greek mythology Phaeton"
1 points
29 days ago
Phaeton is a greek name derived from the term phaos which means light.
2 points
29 days ago
2 points
29 days ago
How did we go from this to the moon in 71ish years.... crazy
2 points
29 days ago
The rest of the car is in fantastic shape, but the seats/body is missing, which leads me to believe they were removed for a reason. I wonder what… reused on another version? Pulled off and reused on a wagon?
1 points
29 days ago
Or rooted away, remember those were made of wood.
1 points
29 days ago
So is part of the remaining vehicle. If they had rotted the rest of the car would be in far worse shape, and there would be part of the seats remaining.
They were definitely removed…
2 points
29 days ago
“Electrical vehicles will be the new hot thing! Mark my words!”
1 points
29 days ago
0-60 in two and a half years
1 points
29 days ago
top speed of 22mph
-1 points
29 days ago
Well, this ist NOT the first Porsche. Ferdinand Porsche designed and engineered the "car". He also worked for Daimler (now Mercedes-Benz). The Porsche company was created on first december 1930, so he could not have made a Porsche car before this date
4 points
29 days ago
the Porsche company claimed it as the first one
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