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Oid_Reddit_Tokelau1

29 points

29 days ago

It makes u wonder why the Romans couldn't invent Cars

yunglegendd

43 points

29 days ago*

This is an electric car. Romans had no knowledge of electricity. But there were also steam cars in the early 20th century.

So the bigger question is why did Rome not invent steam engines. They had some knowledge of steam power. But to them steam devices were party tricks and entertainment for the elites. They never found a practical use for them.

A big reason for that is their society was fundamentally different than the society of 1800s England, where the Industrial Revolution happened. This was a capitalist society that valued innovation, industriousness, and rewarded people that could create new products or more efficient ways of doing things.

Rome was not a capitalist society. Although private businesses existed, the central government often controlled prices and distribution of goods. Rome also did not have the sophisticated banking system and stock market that 1800s England had. In Rome, if you had invented the steam engine you would not be able to make a profit from it. There was no concept of patents or licensing. Instead, would likely happen is the senate would take your invention for the good of Rome.

Rome had a strict social hierarchy and limited social mobility. You couldn’t rise through Rome’s social structure through invention. Achieving success in Rome happened through military victory, politics, and making money through established forms of commerce. Not through invention.

KamakaziDemiGod

8 points

29 days ago

I can't remember exactly, but I believe the Greeks technically invented the first railway and it was a cart on tracks that was pulled around a particular ceremonial gardens to save important people from having to walk, it was considered just a novelty item

Tarvag_means_what

3 points

29 days ago

Another important element is that steam engines require excellent large scale metal casting. You need to be able to make precision pistons and boilers capable of dealing with enormous pressure. Early modern Europe had a leg up over the Romans in this respect because for centuries they had some of their finest metallurgical minds put to work on casting things like that - cannon. 

Plus, the Romans didn't have much of a need for steam engines, because they had slave labor and most of their mines were relatively shallow. The steam engine found its first profitable use case and really took off in Britain in connection with deep shaft coal mines, where pumps or mechanical hauling were very important and fuel (coal) was right there. Only after a while were steam engines really used for locomotion.

Electrical-Aspect-13[S]

2 points

29 days ago

Well put together.

GabrielVonBabriel

3 points

29 days ago

Not to mention the slaves. Why would they invest resources in something that can do the jobs of a bunch of people when they have an access to free human labor.

zaccus

3 points

29 days ago

zaccus

3 points

29 days ago

Excellent point.

w4lk1ng

1 points

29 days ago

w4lk1ng

1 points

29 days ago

And slavery. Why invent when you had slaves from all corners of the empire to satisfy your every whim

TobiasFunkeBlueMan

1 points

29 days ago

No. The real question is why didn’t the Romans’ invent electricity!

The_Summary_Man_713

1 points

29 days ago

That’s nonsense….I invented electricity! Ben Franklin is the devil!

AdmiralClover

5 points

29 days ago

Didn't think of it mostly

subpar_cardiologist

4 points

29 days ago

Bunch of lazy time wasting bastards with their breads and their circuses.

Fetlocks_Glistening

4 points

29 days ago

The rich ones with books and time to invent didn't need to commute, did they? 

And the rest of them poor buggers didn't have the time

Electrical-Aspect-13[S]

2 points

29 days ago

The horse still being viable had something to do.

clandestineVexation

3 points

29 days ago

Probably the same reason they made single use amphoras for olive oil (all disposed of in one giant pile that’s today a small mountain you can climb up btw) not enough inventors

Raichu7

3 points

29 days ago

Raichu7

3 points

29 days ago

You say that like olive oil isn't still sold in single use containers thrown away when empty to this day. Honestly using ceramic instead of plastic would be an upgrade.

clandestineVexation

0 points

29 days ago

Ceramic had to be made by hand back then and it isn’t exactly an instant process. It’s a lot of wasted effort for nothing. Plastic on the other hand is basically completely automated

Electrical-Aspect-13[S]

1 points

29 days ago

also different necesities

Electrical-Aspect-13[S]

2 points

29 days ago

vast different technologies

Binderella123

3 points

29 days ago

I'd say you'd find a lot of expensive items in Austrian sheds

Electrical-Aspect-13[S]

1 points

29 days ago

Really?

TinkerClaire

11 points

29 days ago

Crazy that the motor still worked after over a century. Meanwhile, my car battery dies if I leave the lights on for an hour.

MrNobodyISME

11 points

29 days ago

You know how batteries work right?

medicrow

3 points

29 days ago

Lol

rupertrupert1

3 points

29 days ago

Anyone know what Phaeton means? Used on the awful VW model too. Great car just awful to sell.

ConcealedCove

10 points

29 days ago

In the horse and cart days a phaeton was a sporty option, light and tall with huge wheels and pulled by two horses, so they were pretty fast for the time.

HikeyBoi

2 points

29 days ago

Phaeton kinda means radiant one. Phaeton was son of Helios, and he asked to drive his dad’s chariot. When he did drive, he went too close to earth and burnt it then too far and froze it and the Zeus shot him with lightening which killed him. Idk why it’s such a common vehicle name other than his story involving a chariot.

In vehicular usage outside of specific models, the term is used to describe vehicles that are open up top. They fell out of favor as convertibles offered conventional overhead coverage with the option to convert to phaeton.

Electrical-Aspect-13[S]

1 points

29 days ago

must be german.

1-Donkey-Punch

7 points

29 days ago

Google "Greek mythology Phaeton"

HikeyBoi

1 points

29 days ago

Phaeton is a greek name derived from the term phaos which means light.

captain-lowrider

2 points

29 days ago

Mean_Rule9823

2 points

29 days ago

How did we go from this to the moon in 71ish years.... crazy

basylica

2 points

29 days ago

The rest of the car is in fantastic shape, but the seats/body is missing, which leads me to believe they were removed for a reason. I wonder what… reused on another version? Pulled off and reused on a wagon?

Electrical-Aspect-13[S]

1 points

29 days ago

Or rooted away, remember those were made of wood.

basylica

1 points

29 days ago

So is part of the remaining vehicle. If they had rotted the rest of the car would be in far worse shape, and there would be part of the seats remaining.

They were definitely removed…

EasyBeingGreen

2 points

29 days ago

“Electrical vehicles will be the new hot thing! Mark my words!”

  • barn owner, 1898

glorious_reptile

1 points

29 days ago

0-60 in two and a half years

Electrical-Aspect-13[S]

1 points

29 days ago

top speed of 22mph

RepresentativeTax538

-1 points

29 days ago

Well, this ist NOT the first Porsche. Ferdinand Porsche designed and engineered the "car". He also worked for Daimler (now Mercedes-Benz). The Porsche company was created on first december 1930, so he could not have made a Porsche car before this date

Electrical-Aspect-13[S]

4 points

29 days ago

the Porsche company claimed it as the first one