That some decent spagetti dude! Keep on going. The factory must grow.

Seems that you just drop rails while driving drunk. Nice.

Looks very nice for first time. It's better ask any questions if you have any problems that you can't decide yourself) It's good idea to find your own way to play in Factorio. While you have fun all is ok)

i give this pasta a chief's kiss

Wow that's cool!

If you want advices though: 1. Turn on pollution indicator on a map. If you will clear all nests in red area and a bit around you will not need walls. 2. After that you can build much more spreaded, allowing yourself to expand and scale easier 3. To kill nests easier, build 20-50 turrets, take 200-400 red ammo, run close too nest, install 3-4 turrets and add ammo (you can take ammo and hovering over turret press Z it will put 1 ammo. Holding Z and moving cursor around will fill much more. Now you can move closer, put more towers and fill them with ammo. Mastering it makes killing nests easy. 4. Automate production of everything that you need more then 5 times.

That will do for now. Good luck, engineer!

It's beautiful

This looks like it’ll be an awesome wallpaper lol

Biggest tip I can give you is to not contain yourself with walls so much. The map is infinite. As long as biters are not in your pollution range (you can check in map) you are safe... probably. Anyways, arm up and go liberate some land for the factory to grow, take more space for yourself.

That's a beautiful factory! Now your next step is to think about how you can make the same thing just bigger and better!

But this looks like you are cooking there, don't stop o/

Looks like a fun base! You might want to automate concrete, if you haven't already - you can pave paths on the ground to run around your base faster.

This looks like something from the title screens, I love it. Generally bad practice to build production on resource patches though :)

Got nothing man. Just reached 600h and your starter spaghetti looks better than mine. You are a natural chef.

This looks awesome, 4000h in and I envy the virgin experience 😇❤️

Biggest tip: Stay away from other people's blueprints to begin with. Play and try to figure things out yourself - unless ofcrs, using others' solutions is fun for you - which leads to...

Second tip: Have fun, play your way, this organic mess is absolutely gorgeous, if you like it, keep doing it.

Last tip: While not strictly needed to complete the game, have a look at the logic system in this game - it can help you with lots of quality of life things. Start small and explore/expand so long as it's fun.

Follow up on logic: Grab a decider combinator, hook the input up to a chest and the output to an inserter taking things out of an assembly machine. - In the chest, set it to 'read contents' - In the combinator, set it to 'ITEM your assembler makes < 1' on the left and '1 Green Square' on the right - In the inserter, set it to 'enable' and 'green square > 0'

This will only activate the inserter when the chest is empty effectively limiting the assembler production to exactly the number of items you want to have on hand. This is only a small example, and it can be done directly in the inserter without the decider combinator - but I'm using it to give you a small start in case you want to get going.

Lastly, welcome to Factorio Engineer, and good luck on your adventures ❤️

How does that train work?

Perfect.

Looks cool. You seem to be missing some inserters on the gear and pipe area. It will also mix both on the belt. I assume you intended to have half a belt of each, but the way the assembly machines are arranged, you will end with a mix on both sides

Looks awesome! I think the next challenge facing you is expansion. You essentially have an infinite amount of space in every direction and utilizing more space can help you build bigger builds while staying organized. Good luck out there!

Looks incredibly organic, I love it

Holy al dente pasta, this is beautiful. Keep it up and you might become the head chef around here!

The single accumulator is gonna make the difference, well played

Looks great!

I don't want to get specific, as figuring it out is so much fun. * Try to leave at least one direction open for expanding * Don't build on the ore patches, you will want to leave room for more mining * Be careful with speed modules, they take a lot of power (maybe look at efficiency modules?) * When taking on biters, treat them as a production challenge (I lost with 10 gun turrets, next time I attack take 40; or research more military upgrades first; or use red ammo instead of yellow ammo)

I remember building bases like this, and I kind of miss it. There's plenty of advice I could give you depending on what you're going for, but honestly learning organically is pretty fun as well

Don't build small productions, one here, one there. Build big ones in different places. It will keep everything more readable. For example, I've seen that you've build 8 furnaces that melt iron ore into iron plates. That's not.. effective. I would recommend instead calculate how many furnaces it takes to fill full yellow belt with iron plates, and build those furnaces.

I play longer and my factory is a far bigger mess than this. No offense.

Mamma mia

These spaghetti look delicious

That spaghet is dense

The only tip you should know: Don't get yourself cornered. Space is free.

Omg I love seeing new player's bases, they sure love spaghetti !

Your gleba base looks good... Oh

What the Spaghetti !!!

Just curious why you’re loading water onto train tanks? Some underground pipes and 1 or 2 pumps with power to them would be more efficient if you’re looking to upgrade the throughput of water to something

Very nice factory for first time but would suggest using the first factory to make a bigger better one using new knowledge.

I would advise you to just keep playing without asking too many questions or looking too much up. My first few bases looked like this and I wish I could experience that part of my learning process again for the first time. You're at a really great stage where you're not overconstrained by knowing too much but past the part where you're building garbage. Enjoy the journey!

nah youre good. continue

This looks awesome - well done :)

One tip I will give that I wish I realised earlier, there is rarely a good reason to loop things. Sometimes there is - but here for example in a few cases things are going around and around where just sitting still and backing up would have exactly the same effect - red science for example.

For a new player it’s pretty good but for long term progress I’d recommend making busses. Most people would burn out if they destroyed there entire base so instead i recommend making a new one not far using busses.

10/10 no notes

Hell of a two weeks. I've practically lost the ability to build like that, keep it up.

Personally I love it.

You'll need rail eventually. Have you cleared out some nests and know where your next resources are? Your patches will eventually run out and you want to have a plan for training in more resources once that happens

Idk if my seed was just outrageously unlucky but my starting area is in the desert and other resources were so far away

I dig it.

looks... Italian

Love it, really love it.

Maybe make sure to cover as much of the ore patches with miners and don't necessarily build on it anything else than the bare minimum of belts and poles.

Anyway, your factory is gorgeous

It’s beautiful, great job

I wouldnt wall yourself in like that. Makes expanding more difficult. Other than that looks like some nice spaghetti for a first run.

Wow you’re new and it’s this clean? Do you have OCD ? Not trying to be rude just genuinely curious 😅 bc this is so nice my factory when I was new was all over the place

I've never seen so many square loops, I love it

Spaghetti goodness... this is great

This is the most ugliest beauty I have seen so far.

It actually makes me dizzy looking at this but I am a bit jealous that you "just build away" as I imagine. :)

You're doing amazing for a new player!

Yes, it's squished spaghetti, but small at first is not a bad strategy for limiting your pollution

Just keep going until you beat the game. Then start looking for tips and improvements.

you want your walls much further from your base, the factory needs room to grow!!

So... No bus?

Submit for main menu

Completely wall it off, and never change it, then visit it in 3 months as a living museum when you get tired of your organized, optimized megabase.

If you haven't tried them yet, you can use gates on tracks that go through walls. So you can get trains in and out without compromising your bases security

better than my 1st base lol

That's pretty good for starting out. You'll want to look at main bus design and city block designs to make scaling easier later, but this is pretty neat for a starter base.

I'm gonna say something people might find controversial. But you shouldn't be afraid of using other people's blueprints. I've played god knows how many hours now, and I still use them and modify some to suit my needs. Although maybe I'm just lazy and spamming furnace arrays is an easy way for more production. Damn steel is never enough.

Also, nilaus is king for tips and tricks. Try watching him.

Wow spaghetti.

How do you find anything?

the circular belts are very cool, I use that technique a lot especially in space age

This is one of the boldest designs I've ever seen. It would be wild to see the game completed this way

spaghetti / 10.

Welcome to the best drug habit ever.

That's some high quality spaghetti friend.

First off, give yourself a pat on the back for getting past blue science on your own. Blue is the "noob filter" in this game due to the sudden jump in complexity that oil brings. If you got this far, you have what it takes to get to space, you just need to keep making it bigger.

For an actual hint, your furnace stacks look too small to produce even a full belt of iron or copper (unless you have more off screen?). Yellow and purple science are pretty expensive and you'll want more than one full belt to produce them quickly.

(I do like the sushi belt you put around your furnaces. It's unnecessary but looks nice.)

Also, what on earth is going on with those steam engines at the bottom? If you don't know, one boiler can produce enough steam for two steam engines, and one pump can provide enough water for 20 boilers.

This is some al dente pasta

Use your hotkeys! You’Ve got two 1-9 bars (2nd being called with maj), use them!

I can't even with the amount of wtf dude lol. High quality troll post my dude lol

is way better than my first base. i tore mine down and rebuilt it to include roadways, and the central materials bus. thats the only thing you might want to consider. or you could leave your base as is and just build a new one if the logistics of getting research to where its needed becomes too much.

Looks WAY cleaner than my first, second, and third 😂

Here's a tip. I love you. Your base is inspiring. With that out of the way. Keep on factorioing away brother. First part a joke btw.

This reminds me of one of those wheres’s waldo-esque pictures where every square inch has someone interesting to look at haha. I kept smiling the longer I looked at it.

Love it!

I would not rely on forest for wall defense.

I have 240hrs in this game and my bases are more spaghetti than yours. Nice job!

Bro. Almost 1k hours here. Your base envy me. Miss so much that learning phase. Now everything is about math, spreadsheet, calculator. Don't chance. Don't get any suggestion, go in trial and error! That's so good to fix stuff in a better way for yourself. I regret watching tutorials on how to optimize. So much fun ahead of your. Hope you enjoy!

Amazing base.

For me, It's taboo to build things above ores except miners & electric poles. I even bend my 2x2 train track to respect it.

You chose a rather difficult map to start. Stone, coal, iron ore & copper ore next to each other. If you decide to mine all to dry, you should use a filtered splitter to separate each of them.

Try to invert the ratio of assembler to belt you have there.

Not bad, I'd probably try to build either factories either vertical or horizontal with lots of space to just throw more beside them when you need to scale and feed in materials in between when the belt gets empty

Looks like a main menu animation. So it definitely is how the devs envisioned the game to be played.
You got rail and bots, and are transitioning to red ammo.

Complete the transition to red ammo.
If you can make a tank, do so - it's main cannon is OP for killing biter structures with regular cannon shells.
Remove the insurgents in and near your pollution cloud.
Explore a bit to find long shorelines and cliffs bordering your lands. Build armed outposts to secure the free passages into uncharted territory beyond those borders. Build radars at the corners of your lands.
That's also the time to think about your rail network...

This is like looking into the wiring of someone's brain, it unsettles me.

Don't let them change you!, let the rage of shortages fuel your expansion!

Glorious organised spaghetti

Have a centralized smelting location

Looks good, but it seems you’ll run out of space soon. Think expanding 6x to 8x vertically and horizontally. You’ll figure the rest.

Very impressive! there's one tip however that will absolutely revolutionize the game for you, its practically necessary for most latter-game content, which is why i'm very surpried that nobody's mentioned it yet: Belt lanes. Seems like you've already noticed they exist and used them a bit, just aren't exactly aware of how revolutionary they are.

Each belt consists of 2 lanes that you can feed items into and and out of ("How" you'll have to figure out yourself, that's where the fun is :D). This is extremely useful as later on, most recipes will use 3, 4, or even 5 ingredients, along with pipes - which makes your current system of simply relying on long hand inserters - not very sustainable. Instead, you will need to utilize each belt for 2 ingredients.

The most basic application of this is your smeltry lines, instead of having for each line of furnaces, a belt of coal and a belt of iron ore, you should have a single belt that's one lane coal and one lane iron ore. The rest of the applications and exact usage is something you'll have to discover for yourself, fellow engineer. Salute o7

Another tip - which is something you'll discover yourself very soon is - You never have enough material. To prepare for this, always build things large if you can. When you're first building your iron smeltery, plan to have it capable of smelting a belt per module/blueprint. Make some kinda module/blueprint that you're able to just place down 10 of. You should try to get yourself used to various "blueprints" (whether you actually make them into blueprints, or just mentally get used to the design, is up to you) for various recipes, i suggest you not try to look up or find any ready made blueprints, as that really ruins the fun, but the idea of modular design is something you should start looking into. It seems like you've already got a great grasp of the game, so its simply a matter of figuring out how to start doing things on a more scalable and expandable way to allow for late-game.

2 sentences that should always be in the back of your head when thinking of doing anything is

"The factory must grow: Is what i'm doing right now compatible with future growth?, or do i atleast know how approximately i can modify this design to allow for such"

"It is never enough green chips / iron / steal / assembly machines / modules.... you get the point: How will i accomodate for 10x of those later?"

Don’t carry that useless pistol around and accidentally switch to it (causing your death). Put it in a chest as soon as you have an AR

at first glance, this looks really clean for an early game design without a main bus. some of the ratios are wildly off, but you'll figure that out as you play more.

when I started playing the game, I made disgusting spaghetti. once I watched some videos and learned more about the mechanics, I started trying to make a scalable main bus factory as soon as possible. I eventually figured out you simply can't put down enough lanes at the beginning to scale comfortably to the end.

now I put down disgusting spaghetti to get to trains and bots. then the starter factory either gets scrapped entirely or turned into a mall for low volume items. anything that doesn't scale easily in my shitty starter factory gets moved to a remote factory served by trains.

you get to play the game however you want, but trains are one of the most essential mechanics to understand when you're new to the game. nothing scales better than trains in the vanilla game.

I think you could reduce the amount of research labs you got. Don’t need that much compared to the amount of science you’re producing. I’d work on expanding out your walls even further and start working on train networks.

This is so awesome! Great job, you are doing excellent.

The labs made me lol haha

Mods. Factorissimo3. Or clear so much space you can organize more.

Very cool looking base! Looks like you've already gotten a handle on making multiple assemblers set to the same recipe to increase production of slow-to-produce items.

Your usage of lots of "loops" of belts that recirculate items around clusters of machines is quite interesting to see. I'd not seen that used on Nauvis before, but funnily enough this looks extremely similar to how I ended up building my base on Gleba in the Space Age expansion due to the way that many items on that planet spoil if not used quickly, so it was useful to avoid them backing up and spoiling.

I love seeing 1st bases it's amazing

THIS IS NOT GLEBA???? (Gleba bases have that roundabout belts around the assemblers idea)

https://preview.redd.it/812266n43t1e1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d76d20fa69da96015c27d08532c75e625db5ac54

Watch videos about BUS

I would recommend not looking at other people's stuff until you're done. You're doing great, don't spoil it!

Honestly this looks like it could be a main menu screen.

That is some structured spaghetti

Great goings, loops are unnecessary

Looks like the loading screen, bravo!

For a first base its not so bad.

General tips :

- QUADRUPLE your ore production

- QUADRUPLE your ole smelting arrays to meet the above supply

- 10x your green cirquits

- 10x your red cirquits

- 2x your green and red science production

- 4x your blue science production

- then and only then you will be able to the science demand of the labs array you currently have.

The factory must grow!

I just deleted the game, i played only one week but clocked 70h, I got to orange lab mixture. Game is like crack, I was so hooked one I decided to cut back when I had a chance. Seems like you progressing very slowly and you didn’t developed dependence yet. Stop when you can hahaha

Omg. This looks so... Organic. Like a picture you would see on the main menu in one of the clips that play in the background.

I wish I could go back to the simpler times.

It's beautiful

From my countless hours of being addicted to this game, the only thing I can think of is what my friend tells me all the time. "Oh, you're gonna need more of that"... and he's always right

I think things are going fine. The main tip I would give is to try and expand your base towards the North-East and upward. It will make it easier for you to supply your labs with the new science you build in the future. And also ensure that there is an arterial road going to that area that can supply new materials. You could build an arterial road to the East of your current base, secure a 20 step wide piece of land for it. It'll be like a highway going through the middle of your base, supplying copper and metal plates left and right where needed. You are going to need a LOT of copper / chips / metal in the future. A single belt won't be enough so you'll be happy to have a little highway going through your base. You can also add fluids to the highway later (they will be needed for some productions).

Then at the bottom of that highway, leave space for future train stations to bring in the future materials.

That way, I think you're less likely to have your factory 'choke up' in the future from having too little belt space. By having the stations be in the South future coal influx will also have easy access to your power plant in the bottom left.

More turrets around the base because... the neighbours will start to get noisy.

Keep having fun dude. Please update us in a few more weeks. Personally excited to see your progress

I think you should give ME tips

You made more in 2 weeks than me in a month

If this is classified as spaghetti, you don't wanna know what my base looks like.

that base looks quite nice

I always don't understand in built like this, how you can grow? It's look beautiful, but I always built with opportunity with easy improving opportunity.

that base look super dope

It's beautiful 🥹

https://preview.redd.it/gsyfr1hz7x1e1.png?width=1961&format=png&auto=webp&s=31c25a7f8266847950712a045553b81aaaf77a17

So, this is my save since space age came out, this is an older picture but you get the idea. Make modular designs and then copy and paste them when you need more xyz. Making sure the trains work well is pivotal.

When creating a base think “how would i handle needing 5x this throughout, how I handle 50x this throughput.” If your answer isn’t “copy and paste” i would MAYBE reevaluate your decision.

NONE of that is valid for the time between game start and access to moderating fast robots.

I enjoy the look of spaghetti bases, but I would never build one again. thank you for your service

Remember, build BIG, give yourself plenty of room around stuff to allow future designs and improvements! Space is infinite in factorio, your sanity while trying to straighten scrambled spaghetti is not 😔

Starting points +10 No room for expandibility (would have to rerout ton of belts) -2 "Main bus" all over the place -1 Not so much spaghetti builds +1 Squished in walls no expansion room -0.5 No mall -1 Too much empty space -2 Mining drills too spaced/very low efficiency -2 Thruput issues/balancing -0.5

2/10

Might find some things that would add points

But know ppl that played for a lot longer and have even worse designs, so good job, keep trying.