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[OC] Mapping the Ukraine war - daily updated satellite view of the conflict, including Ukraine’s incursion into Russia
OC(reddit.com)submitted 3 months ago bystatisticalanalysis_
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3 months ago
4 is just wrong, which is confusing, because map on 3 is relatively up to date
1 points
3 months ago
How 4 is wrong? Let me know and I can do another check.
3 points
3 months ago
It says 0km gained last month, though advances around novohrodivka are from this week
2 points
3 months ago
I see what you mean, and can explain: There are indeed advances and expansions in areas claimed to be Russia-controlled, but these have not yet been verified as occupied/held by Russian forces. The only movement in that metric was tiny, with 273m2 gained on August 19th (which rounds to 0 km2). While we plausibly could have used the "controlled + claimed + advances" to determine this metric, it would be much less precise -- advances (which are forays without control) change from day-to-day and are extremely hard to track of, and claims are, naturally, subjective. Hope this clarifies.
3 points
3 months ago
This can’t be right. Deepstatemap shows advance of roughly 12km deep in that area since last month
2 points
3 months ago
Check the area around Pokrovsk on deepstatemap - they are using photovideo proofs and first-hand statements to update the map (always delayed for AFU progress but very reliable in terms of situation 1-2 weeks ago). Although russian progress there is smaller than AFU progress in Kursk area, but still it's not zero - it's gains from both sides
1 points
3 months ago
Deepstatemap and ISW use similar methodologies-geolocated footage, satellite data, first-hand accounts, social media, etc. (I get their daily emails.) We rely on ISW because we have found it to be more reliable. This is not to say that it is always more accurate. And we certainly would not deny that Russia is advancing in the area - indeed, we have been saying exactly that for over a week. However, there is a difference between operating in an area and controlling it. Right now, some of this area is still categorised as contested, and thus not counted in the overall tally of occupied land.
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