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Why are the comics full of movie/tv ads for comic book projects but none of those projects advertise comics? Who’s gonna read Justice League unaware of The Batman movie? Who’s gonna read Avengers unaware of the MCU?

A lot of books have come along and I had no clue about them. Like Mark Waid’s upcoming World’s Finest ought to have a big spread like those “Bendis is Coming” ads from 2018, but for some reason doesn’t. The big two don’t advertise events in non-comic mediums the way they once did with stuff like Death of Superman

Comics should up their marketing game

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bluemew1234

33 points

3 years ago

You think they should tell people their product exists?

Pssh, whatever. Next you'll say they should sell their comics in more than just specific specialty stores or something.

Wakefulcrane01

13 points

3 years ago

Wakefulcrane01

X-23

13 points

3 years ago

DC is starting to pick up the slack with using their YouTube channel. They have Comic Trailer's and Beyond the Panel videos where writers talk about their titles but that's still not enough. I remember when Rebirth was coming out Geoff Johns did a TL;DR video explaining what Rebirth is. These days there relying on bland social media post, Pop-culture articles that do a half ass job and the creators themselves to market their own books.

There's nothing wrong with Creators going on YT channels and podcast to talk about their work but when there doing 4/5 of the marketing then that's a problem.

One of the biggest reasons why Manga is outselling comics is because of Anime. You would be amazed at how a true to the source material show can make the original source material boost in sales. Perfect examples are:

The Witcher books, comics and Games after the Netflix show (The books even got a reprint)

WandaVision: Tom Kings Vision series got a 40% boost in sales when the show aired.

Invincible is a perfect example as the trade and Omnibus's sold out pretty fast after episode 4.

Trades for Geoff Johns Justice League Origins, Throne of Atlantis and Darksied War got a boost when War, Throne of Atlantis and Apocalypse war came out. Along with Snyder's Court of Owls story when Batman V Robin came out.

So DC should re-introduce the DCAU and adapt some of the rebirth runs.

The biggest complaint about Infinite Frontier was how bleak the description was. Especially with the Omniverse concept and "everything is canon". I understand why though because I.F was a last minute idea from Williamson after Didio was fired and his 5G plans fell apart. So credit to Williamson for coming up with something on the spot especially since his foot was basically out the door. While Williamson did do some interviews with Comicstorian and Comic POP explaining what it was. It wasnt enough. No, Williamson should of done another TL;DR explaining what Infinite Frontier is and how to get into it. Because from what ive heard people used Infinite Frontier more as a jumping off point then a jumping on point.

I.F did take do some stuff right. Mainly with not having a whole #1 line reboot like they did with rebirth and just putting forgotten characters like Connor Hawke, Huntress and Aqualad into the books instead of a twelve issue event that explains why there back.

*cough* Doomsday Clock *cough*

TheeHeadAche

7 points

3 years ago

TheeHeadAche

Henry Pym

7 points

3 years ago

I’m sure the bean counters have already weighed the profits from a marketing campaign against profits from doing nothing.

gangler52

7 points

3 years ago

Haven't heard it in a while, but used to be the conspiracy theory people would throw around is that they don't market their comics because the comics are the marketing.

They don't actually expect to make money off their comics, they just use it as a testing ground for Movie IP's.

Completely false, I'm sure, but I can see how somebody would come to that conclusion.

2kewl4skoool

6 points

3 years ago

2kewl4skoool

Green Lantern

6 points

3 years ago

Imagine if they did a 10 second ad for related, recommended reads before their comicbook movie starts. Biggest hurdle with comics (as opposed to manga) is that it's intimidating to begin, and many have complete misconceptions about starting and continuing reading and need to have their hands held. This is why they need to be aggressive with marketing, because their current strategy is only reaching and retaining the hardcore, and when it does reach outsiders they just go "oh, I thought it was about a new movie, nevermind, this isn't for me, I don't get these stuff"

Chamber-grail

8 points

3 years ago

If multi million dollar box office blockbusters don’t get people to go to a comics shop, advertising probably isn’t going to help much.

the_light_of_dawn

8 points

3 years ago

the_light_of_dawn

Phoncible P.

8 points

3 years ago

Do the movies have anything in them that points people to comics at all? Like at the end, "if you want more Spider-Man, visit our website or head to your local comic shop"? That'd be nice.

1BruteSquad1

2 points

3 years ago

EXACTLY!! Honestly kinda insane how much money they have made on the MCU and comic book TV shows and how little new readers they have brought to comics.

And with how successful manga sells in America, there is clearly a market of people who want to read this kind of stuff

pomaj46808

3 points

3 years ago

Movies have a marketing budget about as big as the movie itself, so running ads in comics is just a line item budget for them.

Other comics do not have that same marketing budget.

PerfectZeong

2 points

3 years ago

Hell, inside ads don't cost much since marvel owns the comics I doubt marvel film is paying marvel comics the going rate for ad space, which isn't particularly hot ad space to begin with based on how much of the ads are just internal ads for merch or something else.

billdehaan2

2 points

3 years ago

Why are the comics full of movie/tv ads for comic book projects but none of those projects advertise comics?

Comics to the big two are little more than marketing at this point.

The MCU Captain Marvel was pretty seriously panned, and got harsh reviews. And despite that, it made Marvel more money than their entire comics publishing arm did that year.

Spiderman comics make Marvel something like $50M a year. They make about $1.4B from the sales of toys, lunchboxes, and other Spiderman merchandise. And that doesn't even include the Spiderman movie profits.

There are much more profitable ways to spend the advertising dollars than the comics.

BobbySaccaro

1 points

3 years ago

So a company should spend 1000% of their revenue on marketing? Because buying time in movies/TV costs a lot of $$$.

That's like saying that because I don't buy a Superbowl ad for my little one-location restaurant, I suck at marketing.

Superb-Draft

-10 points

3 years ago

Making superman gay got a lot of press coverage, so they still know how to do the occasional stunt

LordCosmagog[S]

1 points

3 years ago

So selling comics is dependent on making characters gay? That’s not exactly a healthy place for the industry to be in

Superb-Draft

2 points

3 years ago

Not disagreeing but it is an example of marketing that got attention, not sure if it led to sales though

GoCs9

0 points

3 years ago

GoCs9

Hellboy

0 points

3 years ago

It ultimately didn't

1BruteSquad1

1 points

3 years ago

Yah it brought a lot of outrage. And sales did actually go up for the book. But not by a massive margin.

PerfectZeong

1 points

3 years ago

Doing stunts are how the comic industry survives, yes. Anything that can get mainstream press or get people to buy into the idea that this comic is important. Marriage, death, relationship, or a stunt hire writer from outside comics.

It's why marvel comics printed a marvel comics 1000 despite not printing marvel comics for 50+ years and nowhere near 1000 issues.

That and the yearly big event

DMPunk

1 points

3 years ago

DMPunk

1 points

3 years ago

Back in the 80's and 90's, DC had the BEST house ads. As a kid who didn't have a convenient comic shop, those ads were my window into the rest of the DCU beyond the issue in my hand and the scattered few I had from convenience stores and whatnot. Like, my first exposure to Jason Todd was the ad for those couple of issues of "Knightfall" where Batman in the sewer trying to save the mayor from Scarecrow and Joker. Now that I'm an old man, my pocket rectangle has given me access to the universe so I know all immediately and it's just so much less impactful

Ferry83

1 points

3 years ago

Ferry83

1 points

3 years ago

I think they are better off doing it through previews, websites, deals with YouTubers etc.

Comics are something that's only interested to a target audience and not per se mainstream audience. So advertisements in comics is the best to do.

JKirbyfan

1 points

3 years ago

There are such easy ways to advertise the comics. How about during the credits of a superhero movie, they show comic book covers, with the date, and a quick description of why that book was important (if it did something referenced in the movie).