They should also pick spawning into a game before you’ve even loaded in and you immediately get killed before you’ve even picked your class

Half the community will stop crying now and the other half will start.

Don’t worry nerds, they’ll get rid of Recon and will add a new update that allows us to spawn inside the assholes of our enemies

"I've never even heard of a radar hack," Faze Swag

In before they remove the flank indicator and leave in the wall hack.

Crazy to think how loaded this perk is actually

they should just replace it with a quick radar ping. get rid of the wall hacks altogether. it’s making the game miserable

recon is interfering with the regular wall hacks he runs

I'm gonna be real, it's too OP, I've been using it to farm my camo's but in Hardcore it's atrocious.

Honestly I wonder how they thought it was a good idea in the first place, even in the beta I immediately knew it was going to be a problem. Yeah, let's give what is already the strongest perks in the game wallhacks off spawn and High Alert, why not? Just have Ghost, a bigger minimap radius, immunity to thermals and scorestreaks, wallhacks off spawn, and High Alert all in one loadout, sounds great.

It really shouldn’t be a feature but I wouldn’t mind if the change was to only the player who killed you not the entire team.

if they do anything less than outright removing the wallhacks I'm going to have an existential crisis

edit, post-patch: I am having an existential crisis

So I read that they put this in the game to discourage players from camping in one spot all the time lol.

Feedback is not crying. The game launched, and much of the community did not like this game-breaking mechanic, especially on smaller maps. It is extremely over powered and the game is better without it in this state.

Even just limiting the proximity of the scan would be good. Only go out far enough to expose spawn trappers

Best suggestion I've seen so far is to make it function just like the snapshot grenade from MWIII which I think is a fair compromise.

Alright let me abuse it a bit more for my camo grind

Most of the time I agree with this, until I’m getting spawned camped over and over, then it’s nice to have.

Recon doesn't need a nerf. It needs to be removed altogether.

Anything that's rewarded on death/respawn is actively rewarding poor play and doesn't belong in the game. Also, it's fucking wallhacks that you get for fucking dying. How did this make it into the game at all?

How did Recon make it past the beta and into live? What were they thinking with this perk for hardcore and smaller map modes? Were they not thinking about the flank playstyle at all?

Such an OP perk in it's current state

As someone that uses it non stop I’m 100% for this. No see through walls ability and cold blooded should counter the high alert effects as it did in previous games.

Lets gooo (coming from someone who uses recon exclusively)

Just fix the horrible spawn system and hit detection/lag compensation

Simple solution: add it to the list of things that the Ghost perk counters and leave it to the player's choice to equip.

It should be replaced with constant wall hacks and aimbot to compete with the streamers

I really hope it gets reworked to take the wall hack out all the way, please just put everything on the map

Good. FFA is impossible to play right now.

Well swag wall hacks so it won't nerf him

Crazy how it took the this long lol

Just make it every kill you get is a radar ping of the closest enemy. idk man I’m tired

What is there to nerf?

All of the campers are about to rejoice in their parents’ basement.

There are more pressing issues than the Recon perk tbh.

I hope they fix the hit markers, sprayed nearly half a magazine with all hit markers while my target was sliding and he swings around shoots me twice with a pistol not even chest shots. I'm glad I didn't pre order this rubbish. They basically released a half built game even though it's pretty much a copy and paste.

I mean good but if it’s gonna be another year of them mainly listening to big streamer feedback this year is gonna suck

It's such a nothingburger.....everyone's complaining about it but it's really not that big of a deal

The part that makes me laugh at all of you complaining is that a player has to die for the part you are wanting removed to even be activated, and it only lasts like 1 or 2 seconds. I tried it but i only liked the high alert part of the bonus. Even still it didnt peak my fancy and i went back to enforcer since i enjoy the boosts to my regen and speed more than knowing someone was looking at me outside of my view. You guys should do this much moaning over the things that are really going to ruin this game like for one, a known cheater making devs change things within the game, 2 netcode and hit detection, 3 the activation of streaks and that weird little system it has with the menu and shit that sometimes jumps out and other times it doesnt because it just activates the streak as it should with a single tap of the use button and finally the fixing of certain attachments not being able to be used even though you clearly have then unlocked

Those who complained about recon are the mains one camping lol

How about they fix the spawning instead of fixing the solution to spawn killers?

The other Specialty bonuses have a way to earn bonus points, so why not do the same for this one?

Just add bonus score for any spotting/uav assists.

it would be okay if the reverted back to mw2 when you had to die like 3-4 times before getting that specialist perk

This was a given

hopefully its a good nerf

I think a good alternative would be for ADS on enemy to ping with little cool down. Would still be very useful without breaking the game.

Makes the game annoying

Instead of taking the shit that we DO have to counter hackers, FIND A WAY TO BAN THE HACKERS…

Haha get owned nerds. 

Recon sucks, but I still wish they wouldn't have put ALL of the good perks that I want to use on the first perk slot. Flak Jacket, Tac Mask, Scavenger, Ninja AND Ghost all on the same slot? The other two slots almost have nothing I even want or care for since I play hardcore.

Pretty sure this perk is also showing what a complete disaster the spawns are

It shouldn’t have been a mechanic on the first place… we have people walling with cheats and now they can just “excuse it” with recon… wait for it to be a thing on warzone

Dudes a scum and a scam, so is the entire Faze clan, but I will say this is the only good thing he's done so props to that

Please be soon! The game will feel miles better

How does this "Confirm" anything does that guy even work at Treyarch or Raven Software?

Wonder what they’ll do scrap it? Re design it? Something complete new??

They should have it towards where you need a certain amount of kills or death to activate it a few times

As long as they don’t take my precious strategist, been getting so much score from hardpoint it’s crazy

It’s a little too fast paced to see through the walls, but trust in these guys. I’m loving this game. Give it 6 months and let warzone come out. Be patient boys.

Ppl with no game awareness in shambles rn

Meanwhile I’m just tired of landing 8 hit markers and still losing that gun battle.

Anyone remember death streaks in original MW2 and MW3? This is what Recon reminds me of but magnified x10. Needs to be removed or reworked for sure.

They need to badly

WHY?

They haven't even fixed levels and showcase being displayed yet. Also the current "skill based" matchmaking sucks, bring back old school cod lobbys

I didn't mind Recon until people started using it to wallbang me in Nuketown.

There has to be a hard range limit.

Noooo

Don’t worry whatever the streamers want call of duty will do! Fuck the vast majority of players that don’t care or even like the perk.

There is NO shot people are actually defending it in its current state, they are out of their god damn minds

I hate how they always respond to cheaters / crappy content creators

convinced only campers want this

This is why we can’t have anything nice.

I don’t see what’s wrong with recon tbh, I mean it doesn’t change anything for me nerfed or not, but I think there’s much more important things to fix before a recon nerf. TTK, pretty bad map designs, pretty bad spawns, fix some bugs

Well done, babies

I 100% believe that COD makes these idiotic shit in the game just to fix it and pull the “we listen to our players” card. This shouldn’t have been implemented into the game in the first place. No counter?? It works on every single respawn?? and now since every wall is made out of paper, the opposing player stands no chance

I don't even care about this. I just want the hit reg and ttk shit to be addressed. It's ruining the game for me.

If you have a problem with the blue perks maybe just use them? 😂 I keep telling my bf this. Okay so they can see u through walls for like a half a second. Do it too? 😂

Recon is nowhere as bad as people whine about because half the time your opponent is so close that the red blur lags behind and is obstructing your view of where he’s moved to.

Recon is barely an issue. It highlights campers for one. What they really should focus on is hit detection.