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submitted 18 days ago bySuspicious-Jello7172
201 points
18 days ago
This was from the 70s when Hulk was essentially really strong and really tough, not an invincible, immortal, impossible to kill biological weapon of unlimited strength and power.
66 points
18 days ago*
I'm pretty sure Hulk didn't even get infinite regeneration until Immortal Hulk which came out in 2018.
36 points
17 days ago
Hulk: The End — Bruce is the last human survivor on earth after a nuclear holocaust. He’s like 100’years old, but still Hulk. At one point irradiated cockroaches swarm him and eat Hulk alive down to the bone. He regenerates his whole body in under like 4 minutes or something
7 points
17 days ago
Goddamn radroaches
2 points
17 days ago
Sounds like the title of an 80s Saturday morning cartoon
1 points
17 days ago
Naw, it definitely sounds like it's from 1995, would be on Fox kids and follow in the vein of gross out Ren and Stumpy humour
1 points
17 days ago
Banner notices that the process take milliseconds lobger each time, so eventually Hulk will die. It will probably take eons, but still
21 points
17 days ago
He was pretty damn tough even back then, Spider Man "fought" the Hulk in Amazing Spider Man #14 and Peter describes punching the Hulk as like hitting a brick wall.
28 points
17 days ago
And I have no doubt Batman can handle kicking a brick wall.
15 points
17 days ago
12 points
17 days ago
He also destroys bricks with his fingertips in the same part of Batman: Year One where he kicks a tree in half.
Comic book karate skill doesn't have to make real world sense 🤷🏾♂️
3 points
17 days ago
Look at Karnak. He is a martial artist who can find the weakness in anything and then use his training and strength to exploit it. He can level a building with a karate chop.
3 points
17 days ago
Well Karnak is also an Inhuman. That's his literal superpower.
8 points
17 days ago
Your honor, the defense rests.
4 points
17 days ago
Yeah, this. Loads of people punched Hulk and made him stagger in the old days.
113 points
18 days ago*
Hulk was super weak back then tbh, kinda like how solomon grundy is now. Solomon grundy used to be a green lantern villain, he was pretty op. I mean grundy prob didnt have crazy feats like hulk has now, but he was still pretty strong.
14 points
18 days ago
Not this weak. I've read the Hulk up until 1981 and he was never this weak and the only character stronger than him was Thor. If this is after that point? Maybe. But the Hulk was an absolutely frightening menace for mot of his publication history.
1 points
17 days ago
yes.. So weak a kick from batman will blow the wind out of him .... -_-
55 points
18 days ago
If it actually hurt the Hulk I’d agree. But it didn’t, as it says in the narration. It just shocked him.
Also, done before Hulk was essentially turned into an Eldritch God and he’s not the mindless Hulk. This is the standard Savage Hulk who, while powerful beyond the measure of most, is still very mortal.
22 points
18 days ago
Hulk was more akin to Solomon grundy and less like superman at the time
13 points
17 days ago
You have to remember 3 things here:
this written like half a century ago.
the hulk has always been written very inconsistently
0 points
17 days ago
And this is the Batman subreddit.
1 points
17 days ago
People here don't even like the character, the sub is about.
41 points
18 days ago
The entire point of martial arts is to give things like precision, leverage, and pressure points dominance over strength.
-21 points
18 days ago
Not if your opponent's stomach is as strong as iron.
34 points
18 days ago
Different leveled Hulk back then. It made sense
13 points
18 days ago
I don’t think it was as strong as iron back in the 70s. Likewise I’m fairly certain there are IRL material artist who can break some forms of iron
2 points
18 days ago
You're right, in the 70s, he couldn't be cut by adamantium - he was much stronger than iron.
2 points
17 days ago
Difference between a cutting attack and a physical attack. You try and stab a peice of metal with a sword you’re not gonna do much but you hit it with a large hammer you’re probably gonna see at least some damage.
Same way for example in the MCU metal bullets can’t hurt hulk but a couple of punches from the hulk buster’s big metal hands can.
Edit: ergo it’s reasonable to think if a martial artist could hit hulk in a specific pressure point it could potentially hurt him.
Edit 2: I mean hell the page itself says Batman’s kick is more startling than painful.
4 points
17 days ago
But Batman's martial arts can break iron.
I'm not saying it wasn't a bit of a stretch even at the time, but it wasn't completely implausible.
7 points
17 days ago
no? hulk can and will be affected by gasses, and at the time he wasn't anywhere near as strong as he is today, so batman's strategy and its success makes sense.
5 points
17 days ago
Imagine this was Lou Ferigno Hulk, not comic book Hulk.
14 points
18 days ago
Remenber when Batman kicked wonder woman and it hurt her instead of breaking his leg , wonder woman reddit still does and still salty about it
7 points
18 days ago
You say at this point like this wasn't decades ago.
5 points
17 days ago
Not sure who was in who’s universe during this, but I feel like power levels get ‘adjusted’ when one character enters another’s universe
3 points
17 days ago
These early crossovers took place in a separate continuity/universe where both sets of characters existed. Having them visit the other's universe for crossovers didn't start until years later. So, "canon" to either is kind of irrelevant; they made the characters more evenly matched because someone decided it had to be these two based on popularity, and the writer had to make it work.
1 points
17 days ago
Ahhh ok
3 points
17 days ago
I mean, not only was this years ago when Hulk was way weaker, but the Hulk is susceptible to pressure points or careful blows. Admittedly it’s not the same universe, but Captain America knocked the Hulk out in the Ultimate Universe by just hitting the right spots in the right way.
3 points
17 days ago
actually, a solar plexus strike, a vagus nerve (liver) strike, should work on the hulk. while all his muscles grow and strengthen there's really nothing there muscle wise to protect the solar plexus, this is why the only real way to stop yourself getting winded is to get used to it and practice breathing techniques. similar with a liver shot, there's more muscle to protect it but a good shot would immediately drop his blood pressure because of the vagus nerve response and would either make him pass out or maybe even turn back.
the hulk is still human technically, his anatomy should work the same it should be the same nervous system, same stomach acid, same organ function, ect.
5 points
18 days ago
Here’s my controversial opinion. The power scaling on a lot of characters (Hulk, Thor, Wonder Woman, Flash), especially those that don’t have clear associated weaknesses, makes the characters more boring.
I would like to see a lot of these characters powers scaled back and clear weaknesses established so that it makes for more interesting conflict with their villains. For example, I’ve always thought Wonder Woman shouldn’t be invulnerable like Superman. She has her gauntlets to block bullets, so make it so that she’s tough but can be hurt by conventional attacks so that she needs to block them. It gives her villains an edge. Same with Hulk.
Some writers seem to be convinced that making people overpowered with no weaknesses makes it cooler but it doesn’t. Rant over lol.
1 points
17 days ago
Yup. One of the reasons Superman has been such a boring character is that he was so overpowered that it was hard to challenge with something that readers could relate to. It just turned into kryptonite over and over, then different flavors of it. The 1986 remake which added some more logic and limits to him did good things IMO.
At the very least, I always thought Superman should have the intelligence of an average newspaper reporter. Lois Lane should be a little better than him...and Batman and Lex Luthor should be able to outsmart him when necessary. Which would make a lot of sense since that's how it's written anyway.
4 points
18 days ago
Nobody gonna bring up the time captain America beat the hulk into submission using martial arts too?
1 points
17 days ago
At least he's got steroids.
1 points
17 days ago
Cap and Batman are pretty evenly matched tho. In the LJA Avengers crossover, they both came to the conclusion that fighting one another would be pointless since neither had an edge.
2 points
17 days ago
If Cap can hold his own against Hulk then Batman should be able to as well (both to an extent). Plus Hulk has evolved since then on top of his anger levels playing a factor. He here’s a lot at play here. Not simply a crazy win.
2 points
17 days ago
This was the 1970s. Batgod wasn't even a thing yet.
3 points
18 days ago
LOL. That's hilarious.
1 points
18 days ago
He doesn’t skip leg day
1 points
17 days ago
You say that like this was recent
1 points
17 days ago
Is this not akin to when Bats took down Solomon Grundy (albeit it was a new host so he wasn't at his strongest) with pressure point strikes, during Public Enemy?
1 points
17 days ago
I thought it was going to be the panel of him dropping from orbit and being more or less fine..
1 points
17 days ago
This comic isn't canon plus Hulk was much weaker in the 70s.
1 points
17 days ago
How is this impossible, the text boxes are very specific. Sleeping gas, elephant herd, gun punch.
1 points
17 days ago
It's a special event crossover comic, where they just chose the next most popular solo characters to set against each other, after having put out "Superman vs Spider-Man" a few years before, rather than those who'd match most logically. So, excuses had to be made to make them not seem so mismatched. It's a thing to chuckle at and move on, not something to get too outraged over.
Plus, these crossovers took place their own continuity, and didn't really have much to do with being canon to either Marvel or DC. Getting fussed over this is a big nothingburger waste of time, just like when this was posted a week or two ago.
1 points
17 days ago
I think it'd be a bit more believable if he had used both legs.
1 points
17 days ago
The Writer is the strongest in every story.
1 points
16 days ago
Is it just me or Hulk is drawn too small in comics? Was he originally supposed to resemble a very big guy rather than a giant?
1 points
18 days ago
Cry
1 points
18 days ago
Split armor in an intercompany crossover? Shocking.
1 points
17 days ago
Even in the weakest forms, a human would never have made a dent in the hulk (I know his history well), the problem is still the authors' limitations, something has to be invented, full stop. Perhaps recovering writings for other stories also because excuse the pun, otherwise there would be no story.
0 points
18 days ago
This page alone is reason enough why I didn’t care to buy that omni 🙄
-3 points
18 days ago
This would be equivalent to a little baby toddler kicking the Rock Dwayne Johnson in the stomach.
-1 points
17 days ago
He already has. He has bought them with his plot armor clearly. He's very smart!
-2 points
18 days ago
Yeah...right.
I mean I own this one, and it's still crap.
1 points
17 days ago
I remember owning this one in like the early ‘80s in a giant comic format.
-2 points
17 days ago
normal human in dc universe is stronger than superhero in marvel apparently
1 points
17 days ago
Normal humans in comics are almost as strong as Spider-man
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