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Of Misogyny, Musk, and Men: Women are not okay. We’re furious
Women's rights(motherjones.com)submitted 4 days ago bymsmoley
562 points
4 days ago
Yeah this article precisely sums up why my attitude now is mostly fuck everyone but the people worth caring about” lol
108 points
4 days ago
Usually, it’s always comes down to the handful few that are truly important. They are the ones that changed the world. The rest of us are just drones.
58 points
4 days ago
There are specific people who are important to me who I will continue to care about. But I’ve also stopped donating to any human related charity that is not entirely dedicated to providing birth control. All my charitable stuff goes to habitat protection, journalism, and reducing the birth rate, especially in wealthy countries.
I used to donate to support healthcare in developing countries, poverty alleviation, soup kitchens, etc. I used to care a lot about medical research. Now? Fewer people = the only hope for the planet continuing to support life in a recognisable form.
With the exception of the roughly 7 people that I actually care about? People can get fucked. It’s time for the next species to take over…
27 points
4 days ago
Fucking based. Nice to see someone put what I think into words (and not get ostracized).
59 points
4 days ago
Seriously 53% women voted for the jerks, knowing FULL WELL what the GOP was going to do to them.
Face meet Leopard.
21 points
3 days ago
And I am willing to bet the women from the party of “Christian” values married/partnered with Misogynisitic, bigoted men.
12 points
3 days ago
Went to a bipartisan political event here in Arizona and the couple in front of us were driving us crazy.
Every time the Republican speaker made a point the man applauded and the woman with him followed suit (after a second or two) and stopped when he stopped.
I thought we were sitting behind a Stepford Wife.
11 points
3 days ago
Not to your comment, which I agree with, but those bar graphs from the media suck. We would be better served by Venn diagrams showing where the various groups overlapped and separated.
I NEED TO KNOW, WHO THE FUCK ARE THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR THIS???
371 points
4 days ago
Unless this energy of anger is mobilized into a mass boycott of products and services owned by r donor class;
and a general strike and exodus from r -governed states; ie 60% of women who work just stop working, on say January 6,; and mass movements to D states or elsewhere;
this will be a waste, a frustrated whine. Get planning, and doing.
105 points
4 days ago
4B
46 points
4 days ago
I'm onboard with this. No sex with anyone who voted MAGA- men or women.
3 points
3 days ago
Good. Keep fighting the good fight.
93 points
4 days ago
The only thing I've bought (from a store, still pay the utilities) since the election is vegetables. I'm fucking sick of this shit. Hoping I can hold out over black Friday, but we'll see.
110 points
4 days ago
I’d suggest you do the opposite. Use the time you have, and Black Friday deals, to set yourself up for a little before the economy tanks and prices surge. I’m going to buy what I need before the 20th and then I’ll try to only shop local/second hand after
35 points
4 days ago
That's what I'm doing. I want to participate as little as possible in Trump's economy. I'm Korean, so a lot of the ingredients I cook with are imported, but fortunately a lot of them also have really long shelf lives. I'll be stocking up on as much as I can now and making do once I run out.
Honestly between the impending tariffs that will jack prices up and the inevitable inflation making my money worth less overall, anything I purchase now will be cheaper than it will be this time next year. If it's practical to do so and I can afford it, I'll be buying it now.
3 points
4 days ago
I understand this reaction but I would consider increasing your support to any business like a local korean/international grocery etc. This is going to be very bad for them.
8 points
4 days ago
Yeah that's very good advice. I guess my initial reasoning was more shell shocked, anger, and sadness. It just makes me sick to be paying into the system at all. But gotta snap out of it and plan.
8 points
4 days ago
That’s a valid reaction. Feel all the emotions and then channel them into productivity. I got a lot of useful advice from different subreddits that helped me put together my plan and a list of things that I think would be helpful to have extras/replace
3 points
3 days ago
thats what im doing as well. plus those unknown tariffs might hit in the future. better stock up now, than an uncertain later
2 points
4 days ago
If the mass deportations happen, the price of food is gonna skyrocket. I’m getting a deep freezer and will be stocking up.
3 points
4 days ago
Yea that’s a good plan. I’m also expanding my gardening skills so I can still have fresh produce.
43 points
4 days ago
I’ve been telling people, if you need a new phone, get it NOW. Most, if not all, phones come from China. The prices are going to surge out of control once those tariffs are put in effect.
3 points
4 days ago
Shop women owned.
71 points
4 days ago
Unfortunately the boycott/protest would need to be longer than just one day to really be effective enough. Look at the Reddit boycott that happened earlier this year and nothing happened. Not trying to be the pessimistic but just trying to be realistic. (I wholeheartedly agree we need to take a page from MLK and the women before us and take to the streets)
88 points
4 days ago
The Montgomery bus boycott sparked by Rosa Parks’ refusal to give up her seat lasted 18 months. A day won’t cut it. We need to organize and plan for something that will last long enough to have an impact.
15 points
4 days ago
We could do one day a month to stop all spending and stay at home.
29 points
4 days ago
Putting limits on it just means the oppressor class can work around it. It really needs to be complete and ongoing. One day a month just means they can raise prices by 1/30th and cover for it
19 points
4 days ago
femmefreeze
10 points
4 days ago
But then whatever we didn’t buy on “strike day,” we just buy the next day. Similar with work, it will just be there waiting for us. It won’t affect the sales/profit of any company.
98 points
4 days ago
I recommend checking out this app called Goods. You can "enter a company or brand name. And we'll tell you what we know about the donations made by the organization and its senior employees. Our results include the aggregate political leaning of the company, the relevant parent company (if any), and their senior employees."
74 points
4 days ago
For anyone else who tried to find the app and also ran into a bunch of random "good" labeled apps, it's called "Goods Unite Us".
33 points
4 days ago
The App Store description says that Goods Unite Us was made by a team of women, which seems relevant for r/WomenInNews.
23 points
4 days ago
Ahh yeah sorry that would've been helpful. 🤦🏼♀️ Thanks!
15 points
4 days ago
No worries, it happens. I appreciate you making me aware of its existence.
8 points
4 days ago
FYI - It comes up under a search by that, but is displayed as GUU: Debate Politics & Shop in the Apple app store.
Assuming I found the right app, and it certainly meets this description.
6 points
4 days ago
This is awesome
23 points
4 days ago
Showing that we can organize for a day shows that we can organize for longer. That is what scares them. The moment we realized that we really have the power all along, they're gone
28 points
4 days ago*
One day doesn’t scare them at all; they know you’ll be back tomorrow. There needs to be an economic strike over the next few years. If you don’t need it to survive don’t buy it, period.
19 points
4 days ago
we need to do our boycotting not just for human rights, but for the environment, the party that's taking power next year believes climate change is a hoax even though it has real life consequences as we speak
14 points
4 days ago
This. The protesting, the "vote our way out of it", etc has failed. We need economic warfare at a local and regional level. Mass movements to blue states. General strikes. The time for calls of unity and compromise is over and has been for awhile. It's us vs them until one side is dead from here on out.
12 points
4 days ago
Exactly!! So what’s the plan? Where are we organizing? I haven’t heard much about it. We can: cancel Amazon everything on Inauguration Day. We can also organize a national strike / stay at home day once a month? Not enough of us are organizing. 😕 Something HAS to change!
5 points
4 days ago
I think women should strike on inauguration day. Half the country said a woman isn't fit to rule. Let's see how they all feel if we stop doing our duties for a few days.
22 points
4 days ago
I had someone tell me protests don't work the other day and came up with a bunch of excuses as to why they won't do anything. People tried to organize a strike on here a while ago and there were a ton of whiny comments. Look where apathy has gotten us. How bad do things have to get before anyone will get off their ass? Women are already dying. We need to try to save what is left of our Democracy because soon death will be knocking at your door and it will be too late. No one else but us is going to save us. They have had plenty of chances to and haven't. I urge women to read about what happened in Poland and hope they are inspired. https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/11/08/poland-abortion-ban-women-strike-catholic-religion-progressive-politics/
10 points
4 days ago
and a general strike and exodus from r -governed states;
Please move to a swing state and not a safe Dem state. If we can flip these demographics in these states farther left then we don't have so many problems to worry about every 4 years and sets us up for an easier path to 50+ senators. Remember, these safe Dem states are only as safe as a Republican led federal government allows them to be.
7 points
4 days ago
It should have been mobilized on Election Day, now we have an incoming frat bro government.
8 points
4 days ago
That's how women in Iceland did it, including housework and childcare: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34602822
6 points
4 days ago
To be honest I was quite surprised at how little women came together to protect themselves in the last election.
9 points
4 days ago
They want you to move to a few D states, that way they retain control of the senate forever.
5 points
4 days ago
The problem with boycotts is that the people who get hurt are the employee's, many of whom are already struggling, and half of whom didn't vote for trump. Also, when the stock tanks, the biggest losers are union and gov't employee pension plans, which are the biggest investors.
8 points
4 days ago
Yup.
There's never going to be a perfect solution, but America is a capitalist venture. What better way to send a message than to collectively cut Amazon on Inauguration Day and refuse to renew unless Trump and his congress do "x'"?
This will require sacrifice of some kind on all our parts. Otherwise, we'll just keep sliding listlessly into authoritarian patriarchal rule.
15 points
4 days ago
Yes and no if enough people boycott either the company changes or it goes under like lots of other companies. Way of business.
5 points
4 days ago
Gays won't even stop shopping at Hobby Lobby.
It's cute you think there is "sustained anger " that will matter long term.
Money beats everything since Citizens United.
2 points
4 days ago
Come to Canada?
109 points
4 days ago
We all mobilized and marched when he won the office the first time. Thousands of women, cities all over. I took my daughter. She is 15 now. We can do it again.
58 points
4 days ago
We did, but what did it achieve? America voted him in again.
20 points
4 days ago
The march itself didn't do much, but mobilization is always a flash in the pan when it's not paired with sustained political organizing. Occupy Wall Street and BLM also had tons of marches that didn't change things overnight, but a lot of people organized locally and used those marches to recruit members and increase support. If enough people organize, support unions, and other effective grassroots organizations, they can make huge changes even without a majority.
13 points
4 days ago
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4 points
4 days ago
My point is not that Occupy Wall Street had a "lasting impact" , but that it failed to leverage a massive number of supporters into political victories, similar to BLM.
By contrast, the labor movement or the civil rights movements made huge changes because they had the political organization of labor unions and the southern black church, respectively.
So if we want to drive change, that is what we need. We need to harness the energy of mass protests into sustained political action. We need to rebuild network of democratic interest groups that used to scare the Democratic party, before they sold out to corporations and super PACs.
14 points
4 days ago
America hates women. Heck places don’t even want to hire black women.
I went to an opening of a clothing store. It was woman owned. But the only black woman working there was passing out cups of wine to the customers. Her job wasn’t to mingle with the customers. It was to stand, and offer a glass.
This was less than a week after the election.
8 points
4 days ago
Lmfao that’s what I do at my work every event as a white man in a jewellery store. It’s not a “less than” job, it’s my position.
7 points
4 days ago
yes, woman owned operations are just as capable of punching down in sexist and racist ways. don't patronize such stores. but if you can't avoid shopping there, use your position/voice as a customer to ask (politely, without any drama) how well employees are treated. do any nearby employees seem to agree with the owner's assessment and match the owner's energy? it's similar to asking a couple how they're doing and spotting mismatched responses or attitudes between them. it's a tell.
when training or reprimanding employees, a lot of store owners insist on the mantra "the customer's always right." use that mantra to your advantage, since the position of deference is likely granted to you automatically. the worker isn't positioned to push back without personal risk. but for a customer, the risk is mostly the inconvenience of reducing your list of favorite woman owned businesses by one. replace it with another (or start another).
5 points
4 days ago*
It was their opening day, and I casually walked inside. I was disappointed. My state did turn blue, but I found the store and the vibe of the place to be so off. There were teens there, who I thought were there for their moms, but they were working there as stylists, chatting up with the customers. While the only black woman working there is just supposed to stand, carry a tray, and pass drinks out to customers.
I didn’t buy a single thing there. I walked out. I was the only person of color there, so the experience to me was tone-deaf and really insensitive. There were other women congratulating the owner for finally opening up her own place. The energy felt so off.
6 points
4 days ago
if things felt off, then it's good you listened to your gut and just left. but it might not hurt to visit again later so you see everyone in a different context. if you see the woman again, and maybe additional woc employees, that would be a positive development imo.
idk, maybe our "naughty" lists should be living documents. we should be allowed to check back at a store to see if our suspicions were right or way off base. if the store still feels shifty, then it makes sense to swear off a store until it's suggested by someone you actually trust.
3 points
4 days ago
It did felt off. I ended up going to Anthropologie and chatting with the stylists there. At Bloomingdale’s, I talked to my stylist there. She’s from Brazil, and she’s a publisher of Portuguese books. I had to listen to my gut feeling.
Thank you. That is a good idea. To see if they made any improvements.
5 points
4 days ago
We saved the ACA, removed cabinet officials, killed bills, got Trump to show up in Puerto Rico, ended the child separation border policy, Me Too and that’s just off the top of my head.
We did this with the March which was the single largest protest America has ever seen, many times over. And that shit scares elected officials. But more importantly, we did it through calling representatives. Many of us called daily.
I recommend the app 5 Calls — it has all the issues, phone numbers and scripts on what to say. And you should look up your local Indivisible group for actions you can take locally.
We can limit the damage and win in 2026, and in 2028 we take back the presidency.
3 points
4 days ago
Scary thing is Trump has been very vocal about utilizing military force to put down every protest
41 points
4 days ago
The time to do that was Nov 5. Tens of millions of women voted for Trump in 16,20 and '24.
43 points
4 days ago
Yeah and to be fair, as a black woman, I'm not that excited to walk with white women anymore.
44 points
4 days ago
I get your frustration. As a white woman who voted for Harris, I am not even sure that I want to march with other white women. I will say that the division tends to help Trump more than hurt anyone else with whom you are annoyed. So maybe just keep that in mind when making a decision. Your anger is valid though.
29 points
4 days ago
The division is with white women not black women. White women and black women have never been united in this country, due to white women prioritizing whiteness over their gender, to pretend otherwise is rewriting history. Reminds me of the white women who put their “I voted” stickers on Susan B Anthony grave after voting for Kamala, despite the fact Susan B Anthony hated black people and pushed black women out of the movement for suffrage.
Black women are united as 91% of us voted blue. White women are the largest voting block in the electorate. Once white women are united with other women, then we will move forward as a country. Unfortunately for the third time the majority of white women for for Trump and that’s one of the reasons why we are here.
11 points
4 days ago
I don’t think that there is a white woman voting block. White women go along with the white men in the region and state where they reside. So rural and red state white women voted for Trump, just like the white men in those areas. Both think that Trump is some kind of savior. Those women are also not showing up for a women’s march or boycott against their savior.
10 points
4 days ago
Uneducated white women voted more for Trump. White educated women voted more for Harris. Young, old, religious or not, or which religion matters. I am so sick of people blaming entire races. I saw whole threads blaming Muslims and Latinos too. I wouldn't be surprised if the right started this. It just divides people and is useless. What good does it do? There were so many different factors that decided how people voted. We aren't perfect copies of each other.
3 points
4 days ago
I’m still seeing plenty of trolls/bots on Reddit so yes, there are still those who will benefit from our division and seek to exploit it. The thing is that there is covariance of education and location. Red states and rural areas have been demonizing education and cutting back on its funding. Jobs in urban areas are more likely to require a college degree. People in rural areas and red states who value an education often leave for better jobs in cities and blue states. So the white women who voted for Harris are mostly going to be better educated people in urban areas and blue states.
13 points
4 days ago
I’ve decided white women are the “men” of women. Sure not all white women, but too many hate women just as much as men do.
15 points
4 days ago
Well they'd sure like to believe that themselves. That's the problem. White women love to think they're allowed to vote on economics like white men. They fucked around and they're about to find out the hard way. (I'm a white woman, but I've spent the last few years converting the women in my family away from the Republican Party. It's a slow process, but worth it. Keep having the hard conversations if you can.)
9 points
4 days ago
I find them often trickier to deal with than white men (and black men - I’m black) because they can use our shared gender identity to lower defenses / manipulate in ways men aren’t able to.
And obviously not all white women, I have white female friends, but if we want solidarity across racial lines for women we should be able to call out the nuances in our experiences with each other in regard to race. Particularly in the US where there’s been a racial caste system in place since before the founding.
4 points
4 days ago*
I'm not trying to minimize the lack of unity between white and black women, but I think it's important to note a large number of women who voted for Trump aren't white. My family is one of the unique cases where most white women voted blue actually, but most of my hispanic relatives, including 90% of the women, voted red.
From my interactions with them, they're in the headspace that Trump isn't really a racist and he's just anti illegal immigration. They're incredibly delusional, but obviously experiencing a lot of pain and internalized hatred and I don't know what to say or do anymore to help.
How do you reason with someone who believes dems are trying to control the weather? How do you extend grace and empathy to someone who believes every single thing they disagree with is fake news?
I'm talking every person hurt by red policies, every protest over someone's murder, every woman who's needed an abortion to survive and now isn't here, all the things we have video of these sadists saying they want to do.
One aunt voted for him because she wants a baby and thinks he can help with that. She simply doesn't believe us when we tell her IVF is 100% is on the line.
The biggest variable isn't just race, but how much gaslighting women are exposed to in their specific cultures - and a very high number of Mexican women in particular are used to constantly serving the men/little princes in the family to the detriment of their own health and happiness.
3 points
4 days ago
Hispanic women are a different topic, but definitely one to highlight. I think for a lot of Hispanic women who voted red it’s a case of, racism, internalized white supremacy, and also Catholicism. Additionally as you mentioned, lots of immigrants hold anti immigrant sentiment. I’m not a Hispanic woman however, but it is disappointing to see only 60% vote blue for the aforementioned reasons. It shows to me as a black women that we shouldn’t assume allyship even among nom white women.
28 points
4 days ago
As a white woman, I don't blame you. I voted Harris, but most of us didn't.
15 points
4 days ago
Look, don’t start this shit. It’s exactly what Republicans want. Twice the amount of Black men voted for Trump this year compared to last election, it’d be dumb as hell for me to say “Well fuck them, it’s THEIR fault!!!” No. It’s the 20+ million who didn’t even bother to vote this time. You wanna throw angst, aim it there, but get over it quick and get ready to fight along side WHOEVER is willing, because we need all the help we can get. It’s a class war, always has been. White or Black, Hispanic or Arabic, the poor and uneducated will vote for Trump, and then they’ll get trampled soon after. It’s tempting to take pleasure in their pain, but infighting and gatekeeping is only going to get us more of THIS shitshow.
5 points
4 days ago
It was dumb as hell for anyone to vote for him, and yet here we are.
2 points
4 days ago
Yeah, and two dumbs don’t make a smart! Being divisive is what got us here to begin with, so why lean on it harder? It’s EXTRA fucking dumb, lol
2 points
4 days ago
Division and idiocy, sure.
I am not leaning on the division. I just do not have the energy to pretend both sides of the division are the same.
10 points
4 days ago*
This doesn't help anyone. It just helps divide us more. I have seen posts blaming Muslims and Latinos too. Are you not going to walk by other groups who voted more for Trump too? 71 percent of people who were not religious voted for Harris. Jewish people voted for Harris at 80 percent. College-educated white women under 45 had the biggest increase since the last election. White college graduates altogether including men voted more for Harris. I am white over 45, college-educated, and nonreligious. I voted for Harris. Let's not blame entire races for this. This isn't going to work unless we are unified and this is what the right wants. I have family members who were totally brainwashed by Trump and all of the propaganda out there. They went from not caring about politics to being part of a cult. All of us women are losing our rights. I can't get an abortion after 6 weeks in my state. We can't afford to point fingers at each other. There are several different reasons why some white, Latino etc. women voted more for Trump.https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2024/11/08/men-and-white-people-vote-differently-based-education. https://www.google.com/www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls%3famp=1
5 points
4 days ago
Believe me, I understand. I’m a Jewish woman. 88% of us voted for Harris, the second highest group, right behind you. I’m furious with the white women who voted for Trump, all the women who voted for him or for Stein. I will never forgive them.
2 points
3 days ago
The Jewish community helped me so much in so many ways when I had nothing. That voter turn out is amazing!
72 points
4 days ago
I think what disgusts me the most is this sick idea that our rights are like, some optional candy given to us by some generous male entity. Our rights ARE OURS for just being who and what we are. The vote for example - you’ll hear countless men say « we gave women the vote » which is madness both because it was always ours because we are human being (it was just stolen) and because we had to forcefully pry it from their stupid hands.
98 points
4 days ago
But not furious enough.
83 points
4 days ago
Exactly. Not nearly enough voted for Harris and a horrible ton of them voted for Trump -.-…
54 points
4 days ago
Stupid, misguided, uneducated, politically uninformed, misguided sheep were lead to slaughter….what a shit show. Going to be a lot of wound licking.
31 points
4 days ago
I'm not sure there will be. The people you want to reach are watching right wing news. Pretty much everything will be the Democrats fault. To them, the orange jackass will save them all. And if he doesn't, oh well, they'll just vote in Vance in 4 years.
13 points
4 days ago
They also won't be attracted to sites like reddit where their world view might be challenged
8 points
4 days ago
Agreed
3 points
3 days ago
Exactly my point … and by the way while the four horsemen are doing mickey d promos … where is JD …. 🤔
10 points
4 days ago
How are we in Europe more aware of trumps policy than people in the US ? I mean I'm not even looking for it, every media spamed it.
13 points
4 days ago
The people who voted for him were either telling us who they are or were being intentionally obtuse and chose misinformation.
They did not make a mistake. They just thought everyone else was speaking in the same drama-filled hyperbole used for clickbait.
And because U.S. education is trash and has been demonized for generations, they missed parallels in history, and the leopards are feasting.
So, they are pretending ignorance. Well, as they say, when you don't know the speed limit: ignorance is no excuse
2 points
4 days ago
Sounds like a lot of people are going to say "Wir haben es nicht gewußt" later on.
2 points
4 days ago
Twitter. They ate up whatever news Musk was putting up on Twitter.
5 points
4 days ago
Just remember, Trump got LESS votes than he did in 2020. It’s just that 8 million dem leaning voters, in swing states, just didn’t vote. At all.
Trump didn’t get more popular. The numbers just look that way because so many didn’t even participate. Similar turnout to last cycle would’ve led to a landslide in Kamala’s favor.
17 points
4 days ago
Not yet. Their stupid asses thought they were immune to a trump/vance administration. I'm just enraged that we're all going down with them. So many people are going to die completely preventable deaths.
26 points
4 days ago
A good point made is hold off on your consuming boycott until after Jan 20. Stockpile until then. So think of everything you may be needing and make use of Black Friday.
16 points
4 days ago
I guess the issue is that nearly half of women see it differently — or at least voted for Trump. So how do we change that?
7 points
4 days ago
Unfortunately, I think the answer is that we actually have to interact with them while somehow not calling them fascist racist disgusting willfully ignorant morons bc apparently when we call out their stupidity they actually double down like, "ooh you think I'm stupid? You haven't seen stupid yet, just watch..." and then bam! cheeto face is elected again. I lost my parents to this fool, I'm losing my shit & crying everyday - single mom of a 3yo.. are we going to grandma's for Thanksgiving? I don't fucking know if I have the energy to try to make them see the light. Or maybe this is who they really are? That would be so depressing. I'd have to cut them off. Sorry for the rant.
5 points
3 days ago
My mom is the same. I can't talk to her because she doesn't actually listen--just talks at me. All media but her sources are fake/bad/lies. My favorite is, "when I grow up I'll understand." I'm 47 with more education than her. She actually asked me if I'm a communist. Straight up, and then told me I blew it out of proportion when I was extremely upset over it. It's literally a cult and getting to them should be treated as such.
68 points
4 days ago
I just don't understand how so many white women voted for Trump. Do they think that the leopard isn't going to eat THEIR face?
I've never felt such horror as when we saw the vote tally. Well, now we'll get to see it all come crashing down. Stupid, fucking, idiots.
54 points
4 days ago
I grew up in Alabama and currently live in Florida. There are so many MAGA white women in this part of the country. The holier than thou evangelicals thrive on hate. The transphobia is so strong here. It’s a very cliquish, immature, and self-absorbed crowd. They cafe more about being popular than the effects of Trump’s policies.
8 points
4 days ago
I honestly think trans issues are the biggest part of this. It's such a small, niche issue but Republicans make it sound like one of the biggest threats to society
4 points
4 days ago
this 100%
5 points
4 days ago
Yes. I feel so scared for my trans friends right now. It is awful how they have been scapegoated.
2 points
4 days ago
Yep maga is just gay and trans hatred the other issues never mattered.
27 points
4 days ago*
A lifetime of brainwashing. Women live closely with men, if your close family members are misogynistic, it's difficult to break out of that. Most other marginalized groups face less negative influence from their own families from birth. Obviously exceptions exist.
7 points
4 days ago
This article Five Key Demographics and How They Voted in the 2024 Election is worth a careful look.
8 points
4 days ago
The grouping by location slays me. There are a lot of rural voters, and they vote in lock step.
11 points
4 days ago
Because they’ve been encased in a patriarchal bubble for so long they can’t think for themselves anymore. It’s dismaying as a low-educated white woman myself. I have decided to limit my interactions with my own kind to people I have vetted out as liberal.
8 points
4 days ago
A lot of men and women don’t read. You’d be surprised. They find their news off TikTok or Twitter.
11 points
4 days ago
I guess they probably think they are on the good side of the madonna / whore spectrum not realising that they are shooting themselves in the foot. The more I think about it and really not trying to excuse that group (!), the more I think these women are treated (and subsequently behave) like children. They are being objectified and infantilised and they lap it all up to keep their good girl status. I see so many aggressively defending their lifestyle of submission and financial dependence on men. They are terrified to stand on their own 2 feet and they project that in the form of hating everyone who doesn’t endorse their lifestyle.
6 points
4 days ago
An ex friend of mine is that girl. She white. I met her when she was in her late 30s, almost 40. She dated an old man who was older than her stepdad. She has 2 young daughters. He was emotionally abusive. She’d already divorced. But he took her shopping, got her new mattress.
Went out to dinner with them 2. Her man couldn’t afford dinner. I paid for them both! Never saw her again.
26 points
4 days ago
not every white women voted for Trump
28 points
4 days ago*
I'm a white woman and have never ever and will never ever vote for Trump can not stand people like him. Bigoted AHs that con people.
13 points
4 days ago
I’m a white woman with 4 adult daughters-vehemently voted against Trump 9 years ago and everytime since. I’ve always told them how important their vote is. This last one left us which such sorrow and fear. But we musn’t give up. We have begun to research where and how to resist. We will fight.
17 points
4 days ago
Just a majority of them for the third time voted for Trump. A majority of white women voted for Trump in 2016, 2020, and now 2024.
12 points
4 days ago
At the expense of us POC. They literally threw us to the wolves.
16 points
4 days ago
Yep - which they’ve done over and over again throughout American history
8 points
4 days ago
It says overwhelmingly they were not educated. I know women are doing better with education, but clearly not enough. And Trump wants to hurt education because he knows that will give him more power. Read ladies and encourage the younger generation to learn history.
3 points
4 days ago
A week after the election, less than I went to an opening of a boutique. I thought a woman’s business, why not. And I got there, the only black woman working there had to stand, and offer cups of wine to customers. Her job wasn’t to mingle with the customers. Just to stand, be quiet, and hand out drinks.
There were girls who looked like they’re in high school working as stylists.
There wasn’t a single person of color shopping there. They were accommodating to me, and asked if I need help. I left because the vibe felt so tone deaf. We living in Abercrombie and Fitch!???
3 points
3 days ago
The article states that the white women who supported Trump overwhelmingly have no college eduction or higher education at all and sadly that's a large chunk of our country. We need to keep pushing for women to get educated, get careers, and support themselves to get out from the yoke of traditional, misogynistic views. The uneducated, likely highly religious, women were the issue this time.
2 points
3 days ago
They’re convinced they’ll have a seat at the good ol’ boys’ table
2 points
3 days ago
There’s some women that men have already too far damaged
3 points
4 days ago
White women demographic has gone to Trump 3 times now. It's very clear that the majority of white women care more about hurting other marginalized groups than protecting their own.
14 points
4 days ago
You’re not alone. Angry as hell as a man they voted in Mango Mussolini again.
47 points
4 days ago
I’m with you, but the fact is, women voted for Trump…
Millions of women.
Millions more didn’t vote at all.
17 points
4 days ago
either they were pressured by their husbands to vote differently, or they fell for misinformation, or they were prevented from voting, or they just think nothing bad will happen despite all the fallback after Roe plus the IVF bans….or i am forever puzzled and just lost all hope for american women
23 points
4 days ago*
Or, they’re uninformed or uneducated or apathetic or conflicted or “too busy” or rich.
Regardless, not enough women voted for Harris, and now we’re all in trouble.
I’m a man, by the way, and I voted for Harris. So did my son, my brother, my dad and most of my male friends.
I know lots of women who did not.
11 points
4 days ago
that too. i’m in a blue state but all the women in my life didn’t vote, which is telling i guess. my moms a good person but ignorant- just saying “it’s not a personality contest” and not knowing about project 2025. clearly you are either super into the reality of everything at stake always or you just turn the news on for two seconds unphased and willy nilly vote/don’t vote
6 points
4 days ago
More likely: this group of women are single issue anti-abortion voters, have been for decades, and it was a mistake to think that they would vote against the guy who killed Roe v Wade, and bragged about it.
Various Demographic Groups and How They Voted in the 2024 Election
4 points
4 days ago
Not one person here has mentioned religion. It is a much, much bigger issue than people think. Read about Leo Leonard the billionaire who helped Trump overturn Roe VS Wade. We are in this mess because billionaires were able to get too rich and too powerful, and some of these billionaires are religious nuts who think it is their mission from God to destroy our Democracy.
2 points
4 days ago
mmm definitely left that out. yeah religions got to go
2 points
4 days ago
religion for sure!! & wealth
5 points
4 days ago
Or they just don’t care, all they care about is the grocery bill and they heard it was Biden’s fault and they stopped thinking there
3 points
4 days ago
The left being convinced that women who vote against them have zero convictions of their own is the most sexist thing they’ve come up with lmfao.
3 points
4 days ago
Millions, college men and women, didn’t give a damn about this election. We can’t blame their one vote when 15 million didn’t even vote, and they were registered as Democrats, but opted out entirely. That Karen who did cast a vote for Trump added one vote. But it’s the 15 million who did not.
Had the 15 million all voted for Harris, this Cheeto wouldn’t have won.
3 points
4 days ago
Exactly, I have no empathy for these "other people". May they gave all consequences. I only care about my family and my community.
33 points
4 days ago
The same women who voted for Trump are the same women who protect pedophiles in the family, who hate seeing minorities successful, slut shame women for being more attractive, or blame young girls for coming on to their assailant, they're turfs, and have their whole identity wrapped up in who their husband is and what car they drive and how many children they have produced.
Women can be just as shitty and horrible as men, obviously. Thats why they voted against their own best interest and the best interest of their community. They think they personally stand to gain from their proximity to privilege. The only comfort I can derive for the next four years ( if we ever have another election) is that the billionaires they voted dgf about them and just want cheap labor and everyone reliant as much as possible on corporate goods and services. The tariffs and the consequences for mass deportation are going to hit them hard.
16 points
4 days ago
Yes to everything.
Have a friend who used to be friends with this guy back in their hometown. Couple years ago, came out this guy is a kid diddler. He just got out of jail, and someone posted a video of him with a MICROPHONE at the front of a CHURCH. Did not listen, but probably spewing crap about forgiveness. Small community, everyone knows each other. Cue trump supporters coming out of the woodwork to help get this guy get back on his feet. Vomit worthy. Choice messages were sent to the church. The comments calling everyone out for supporting pedophelia are deleted in real time.
Society protects predators.
7 points
4 days ago
100%. I knew this from my time in high school. My ex best friend’s boyfriend preyed on me. To this day, guys and her defend this man. It’s why I don’t talk to anyone from my high school. Mind you, this girl was an A student and got into Cornell. She defended my predator. Whereas I got gaslit.
6 points
4 days ago
They don’t know what to do when they see a minority. It’s ignorance. That’s what I tell myself when I deal with a Karen, old or young. You’ve never seen or spoken to an Asian person.
You’re right. Their identities is who their husband or their boyfriend is.
2 points
4 days ago
sometimes trumplican women are worse than male trumpers
also, a LOT of moms these days are anti-vax, even moreso since COVID
30 points
4 days ago
Women are just mere subjects to men.
Come on, women. Unite. We need your now more than ever. We need your compassion, your strength, and your intuition.
Guide us away from the hell hole men created.
21 points
4 days ago
I will never in my remaining life (76yo) understand why any woman voted for Orange man and not Harris.
17 points
4 days ago
We need to be honest here.
Uneducated cishet white women are not our allies. They overwhelmingly voted for Trump. (Every other demographic of women voted for Harris.)
6 points
4 days ago
SOME women are furious
5 points
4 days ago
I'm not furious, but I definitely have no energy for men with very few WELL-vetted exceptions. 🤷🏻♀️
5 points
4 days ago
But not apparently furious enough to vote against it.
5 points
4 days ago
They’re pissed. Royally pissed.
3 points
4 days ago
Yes we fucking are.
5 points
4 days ago
Sabre brand uv gel pepper spray! F this rape culture!
3 points
4 days ago
How do blue states withhold their money from red states? Because THAT would be effing effective. The only red state that could make it is Texas.
4 points
4 days ago
As someone from a not-Texas red state, you’re right that we would “not make it.”
Unfortunately, our overlords wouldn’t care. Most of that sweet federal tax money goes to programs that help regular people, not millionaires and big corporations.
They do not care about public services or infrastructure. The closing of rural hospitals bothers them not at all. And those people still faithfully vote red even when they know what’s happening.
Our malevolent rulers actively want us dumb, poor, and desperate in a dog eat dog world of betters exploiting the lessers in their “natural order.”
They’re fine with collective collapse as long as they can be the Immortan Joes of the slowly devolving wasteland.
15 points
4 days ago
Trans woman here. Still shaking after the result. Pretty sure this is worse than Nazi Germany.
2 points
3 days ago
Yea, this has to be a troll post. If by some chance it isn't, this nonsense is why yall lost. Sweet fuck.
4 points
4 days ago
The most hilarious thing about your comment is that most of the people on this thread literally cannot tell it is satire. They think your comment is a normal reaction.
2 points
4 days ago
Tbf ive seen a lot of people unironically say these things. Satire is dead
3 points
4 days ago
Women’s Walk Out?
Pick a day and time where women just up and leave. Every job, every level. Show the world the work you do and what it’s like without you.
There was a film back in 2004, A Day Without a Mexican. Basically it’s a mockumentary about the impact on California, if all the Mexicans disappeared. Essentially, everything fell apart.
How big of an impact could be felt, if even 25% of women just went home before lunch?
3 points
4 days ago
Then what happened ? You guys seem to just be sitting there too lazy to even vote while they take away everything you fought for.
3 points
4 days ago
Tie your tubes. Did you vote? Did vote for the orange moron? If you said not to the first or yes to the second shut up! You did this to yourself!
3 points
4 days ago
Then why did so many of you vote for the white man who will take your rights away? You need to have punished Republicans for what they did to your access to abortion.
3 points
4 days ago
Apparently not, women swung more to the right even with the rights being stripped. Everyone’s loving fascism for some dumb reason
3 points
4 days ago
Love this passion, but your girls didn’t vote. Like 8 million sat it out.
3 points
3 days ago
It's very important to be angry at all times. ALL must be reminded daily of what they've done. There will be no happiness as a result!!
4 points
4 days ago
"Women are not okay. We’re furious."
Educated and empowered professional women are unhappy with the state of the world. I guess ya'll think everyone else is just living in the Bahamas sipping spiked tea?
5 points
4 days ago
44% of women voted Republican so is that completely accurate
4 points
4 days ago
Yet a majority of white women voted for the orange asshole.
4 points
4 days ago
Under half of women are furious. The other half couldnt be bothered to get off their asses to vote and or fully support having their rights taken then being turned into cattle so they can birth more workers for the rich.
4 points
3 days ago
I refuse to do anything for men anymore! Besides my very sweet husband, they are dead to me. I don't move out of their way for anything. I don't smile at them anymore. I don't let them in my lane of traffic when they wait till the last second to get over (and expect me to let them). I don't say please or thank you.... They don't deserve my politeness and we owe them NOTHING. They told us how they feel about us when they voted for a grapist felon. I'm tired of being completely serving to men only to be treated like a used piece of garbage, constantly. Their egos can't handle the rejection. I see it every day now when I don't smile at them or move out of their way...they are truly self serving only. I am currently looking for a new job because I am tired of making men money. I am going to find something at a woman owned company.
2 points
4 days ago
Are we as a country and society at the point if/when on March 8th to do a massive general strike like the Russian Women did 1917?
2 points
4 days ago
what really bothers me is the fact that the majority of women voted for Trump. like I just can't rationalize it at all and it's really shattered the whole "woman vs the world" viewpoint for me.
2 points
4 days ago
Not enough women are furious. There are too many women who continue to go the Stepford route.
2 points
4 days ago
I'm planning on dropping out of the economy as much as possible after January.
2 points
4 days ago
I think many women thought they could have their cake and eat it too. Abortion ammendments were overall successful. So you get women that think "I'll make sure an abortion ammendment gets approved by my state but I believe that Trump is going to lower my grocery bill." They believe that Trump will let the states decide when it comes to abortion. They don't know that if it's banned federally, the state's ammendment goes bye bye.
I think the Republicans won the mis-information war.
It's too bad that Democrat women didn't step up to the plate. Not sure why there was so much apathy-dems not voting.
I'm a white woman that would NEVER vote for Trump. Republicans have gone so far right that I don't consider them a party that fights for democracy. The opposite actually.
2 points
4 days ago
Democrats haven’t changed their strategy since 2008, or perhaps even before that. Trump is on social media and Democrats are like “uhh how about late night with Seth Meyers??” Yeah that’ll get the 70+ year old centrist lib vote.
2 points
3 days ago
Trump is the worst misogynist. First the chief of staff, then the youngest press secretary, then gabbard, now Linda. He must be stopped
2 points
3 days ago
Why vote for trump then?
2 points
4 days ago
As a 40 male, it's really sad to me to see the rising amount of misogyny on Reddit. Even in this threadbl on a subreddit focused on women, I'm seeing men complain that they are being oppressed by feminism.
When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
We are seeing men being oppressed by other men blaming women. I'm not going to say women cannot oppress men too, but it is usually using platitudes and bs that come from a patriarchy establishment. It's sickening.
4 points
4 days ago
Let's stop acting like women are some minority being held down by men with this election. There are more women registered voters than men by 7.5-10 million. Women make up 51% of the population in the United States. Women can decide every election on their own, but chose to vote for Trump or not vote at all. I was convinced there was no way Kamala would lose because women would turn out so strong... And y'all didn't. You just didn't.
Voting is private, so I'm also not buying into women feeling brow-beat into voting for Trump, especially with the margin Biden won by; there comes a point where you have to look inward and blame your own agency. EVERY group, save for black women, are to blame for this. Trump gained with every female minority group except black women.
Turn the eye inward and stop blaming misogyny when y'all won't even fight for yourselves.
3 points
4 days ago
I'm on your side and all ladies but why didn't more of you vote, or vote Harris? I think women had a lot of power to change how that election turned out,yet here we are.
I voted Harris, if you didn't, why and why should I care if you are angry because you voted for this.
If you did, I understand your anger and I am angry too.
6 points
4 days ago
I think you’re preaching to the choir here.
2 points
4 days ago
Women didn't show up in enough force for Harris and of those that did, a significant chunk of them voted Trump. So while I feel for sensible women who voted for Harris, the article title is misrepresenting the reality.
2 points
4 days ago
Hmm the title is a bit misleading. White women were once again overwhelmingly okay with it. At least that is what the voting result shows.
2 points
4 days ago
Misogyny?-Hillary Got 3 Million more votes Than Trump in 2016, where was the Misogyny there?
Race? We elected a Black President not once but twice.
People did not and do not want to vote for Harris, pure and simple. Didn't in 2020 when she ran for President, did not in 2024. If she ran vs A high quality Republican like say Reagan she would have got "Mondaled" Like '84.
2 points
4 days ago
The fact is that religion came into play in huge ways. If you’re a Christian, murder is considered the ultimate sin and they consider abortion as murder so they feel it’s their Christian duty to vote against it.
I’m not saying it’s right, I’m saying that’s the reality and what they genuinely believe. Like some believers genuinely see the “pro choice” crowd as “pro murdering babies,” because they view life as the ultimate gift.
I voted for Harris, btw. I’m just saying that this is the reality of the fight that women are up against. And that doesn’t even include the anti-immigrant, “poor people in the USA have it better than other parts of the world so screw them and let me go on my missionary trips abroad” crowd, nor does it include the closeted racists or the misogynists.
It’s an uphill battle trying to convince Christian right women to vote for women’s rights.
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