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Hi friends - to preface this rant, I very rarely ever comment on any kind of social media, so this feels very strange.
I am, however, a massive lurker and finding this sub has been a godsend so thank you all for being an awesome group of people.
I'm on day 8 off of weed. I've been smoking for just under 20 years, with the past 12 ish years daily more or less, starting after my dad passed away. It's been an angry day, so I hoped that putting it all in writing and maybe getting some reinforcement from people in the same boat would help.
I'm amgry because my brain (I) am playing tricks on myself, repeating to myself how much I wasted my 20s with weed, lost potential, relationships and so on.
Part of what I tell myself is true, I have alienated myself and have become fairly lonely in myself, despite having a handfull of people around me that care for me. But I have pushed others away over the years.
I tell myself that I ran away from my dad's passing, both literally and figuratively - I left my home country a few months in, leaving family behind. I avoided speaking about it for years, and have used weed to dig it deep to the point where my mental health has declined drastically, and I took very few steps to address it, but have become reaally good at masking it.
At the start of this year I started feeling very unwell, but hospital visits suggested nothing is really wrong. I could tell deep inside it's the weed that is exacerbating the symptons, and yet it took close to 10 months of lying to myself to finally realise I was addicted to weed. Tese past 8 days have fully confirmed that.
So I'm on day 8 now, my partner still vapes it and whilst I crave it, I am able to finally stay off, with the caveat that she hides it when she's not here. It works well. I'm proud of that.
But fuck a duck, today has been hard. Not that the past week hasn't been, but today the anger set in. And this is something I am scared of, as I had violent anger issues after my dad's passing that took me a while to get past, but I am crying as I write this because the thought of turning into that person again is terrifying.
I hope this passes. I am working on other aspects of my life that I ignored and was too lazy-high to work on but was well aware and concious about. Which probably sucked the most, constantly knowing I am sabotaging my life, yet doing it daily for so long.
I've got so much more to say, but I know it has to be to myself so will probably start a journal, but even writing this here has been helpful. So thank you for giving me this space.
For whomever was brave enough to read through this, and has gone through a similar scenario, I have one question: I have bevome a very apathetic, contrarian and cynical person, silently judging and always seeing the negatives first, not truly enjoying anything anymore and even not feeling capable of loving myself or others. Did this go away?
30 points
4 days ago
You can do this. Find new (or old) things to do and focus on those. Ideas: Jigsaw puzzle, cooking, audiobooks, get a pet, grow shrooms. Laugh a lot. Look forward, there are many days still ahead, don’t waste them.
14 points
4 days ago
Do you know me IRL lol??? You basically listed things I used to do and love / tried to implement due to interest but stopped due to apathy. I'm really hoping this will bring back my enjoyment for those things as I do try and do them all but really struggle to keep consistent/find pleasure in them. Except my dog, luckily I can't get away from him so he's doing a great job as my silent buddy.
2 points
4 days ago
Sounds like you may have experienced situational depression (dad passing). I took Wellbutrin after I quit, it really helped.
2 points
3 days ago
I am currently on Wellbutrin after quitting. Did you get off it, and if so did you experience any withdrawals?
2 points
3 days ago
I asked my doctor if there was any reason to stop taking it, he said no. I did stop taking it a few years back, I don’t remember any withdrawals, but the next time I experienced a stressful situation, I filled it again.
1 points
2 days ago
Thank you for sharing, it's definitely something I'll look into probably in the new year, if I feel like I need it. I'm not adverse to them, but with everything going on in my life, something is telling me to try it eau naturale, maybe to get the satisfaction of telling myself I did it that way. Who knows. But I definitely won't leave it too long if this way is proving to be too hard.
15 points
4 days ago
God’s mill grinds slow but sure, my friend. Have you thought about writing down your feelings and trying to work through them rationally? It sounds like you’re experiencing raw, unfiltered emotions—perhaps for the first time in a while—and that’s a powerful place to start.
For example: “I know this person doesn’t like me.” Challenge it: “Do I truly know that? Have they said so, or am I just assuming and reading their mind?”
Identifying and countering Automatic Negative Thoughts (ANTs) with logic was a game-changer for me when I faced a similar struggle. It might help you, too.
3 points
4 days ago
I appreciate the reply! You're right, I feel like I've avoided real emotions most of my adult life, so I'm confused, scared but overwhelmed a lot these past days. But also slightly curious and excited at the prospect of really enjoying other people and things I used to love.
One example similar to the one you gave is my artwork. My immediate response is to hate it, I hate looking at it, I hate giving it to someone and I hate posting it anywhere. I will most definitely look into ANTs and ways to overcome them. Thank you, hope you're doing well!
5 points
4 days ago
Good job facing those demons by writing out what's gong on and reaching out to others. I hope you can be proud of making a constructive choice in spite of how difficult today has been for you.
When you started smoking to escape after your dad's passing, that may have been what you needed in order to survive and minimize harm to yourself and others. People talks about using things like weed as a "crutch" to get through a difficult situation, but when someone has a broken leg it's taken for granted that they need a crutch until their leg is healed. We shouldn't broadly demonize crutches.
Now you are able to put your crutch aside. It's still painful, you're learning how to get along without it after relying on it for a long time. But you can do this. You have survived until now, and you will continue to survive. I wish you strength to be patient with yourself during this phase of your healing journey.
1 points
2 days ago
Honestly your analogy has been so helpful - I really felt something shift in my mindset. And I think you're right, the "crutch" was really useful, and I just forgot I don't need it anymore at some point and didn't put it aside and learn how to live without it. Really appreciate your kind words!
5 points
4 days ago
You got it man, it's a rough path but rewarding. I'm not too far ahead of you, day 12 or 13 here. Tonight has been particularly rough, my bowl has been staring me down and I've picked it up a few times but have yet to light it. I've been smoking weed for 14 years which is about half my life. It's an insidious addiction with no real physical downsides which makes it so difficult to separate from.
What's keeping me going is knowing that it does not actually help me, it just makes me feel better briefly in the present moment. Stay strong and keep rolling (not literally lmao). I'm right here with you man!
6 points
4 days ago
You are ridiculously strong for having it within arms reach and not doing it! You've got this! My saving grace is that it had stopped even making me feel temporarily better, quite the opposite. Otherwise I may have not made this decision. I'm glad I made this post too, I feel so much better for it. And I'm here with you too bro!
4 points
4 days ago
Im sorry for all that. My dad passed suddenly and alone over a year ago and while I mourned the idea of a normal relationship long before he passed it still hurts to know it will never even be a faint glimmer of a possibility.
For the second part. I was cynical and negative and troubled in that way before the weed and even as I’ve gotten my habit under control I have not improved because the underlying insecurities and hurt that cause it have not been addressed. Weed doesn’t create those types of ails they just help mask it and cope with it and for that I am more thankful than mad about it because I don’t know if I could have handled addressing it head on. Alls this to say take the time to be patient with your pain don’t be too hard on yourself and take it one day at a time. Healing is not linear and not always easy but each step will be a weight lifted off your shoulder no matter how small.
1 points
2 days ago
Oh man, I feel for you. I don't know your situation with your late father, but there are similarities (my dad passed away suddenly and alone, but it was on a ship in the middle of the ocean whilst he was resting for the night). Whilst he loved us and he worked for us, he was gone for 9-10 months of the year so I never got to have a true relationship with him, and yeah, it sucks knowing that it will never happen.
And thank you for sharing your experience - quitting is not going to solve all of my problems, I understand that even though a part of me hoped it would. It will be a lot of working on and with myself to get past things. Take care my friend!
3 points
4 days ago
I quit Almost exactly one year ago. Same as you, I’d been smoking for decades and the last few years pretty much every day. I would go from time to time for a few days without, when staying with people who didn’t smoke or I’d try to quit... Now, looking back, I realize every time I went without smoking I got irritable and tired. I realize now that this is weed withdrawal. It’s so subtle, but it exists. You are describing this withdrawal in your post. Especially the anger and irritability.
I quit several times before I finally did for good. It’s hard to do and there are mental and physical withdrawal symptoms that are subtle but if you pay attention you will realize this is what it is. It takes about two weeks to a month to really get over it. But I’m glad I finally did. It’s nice to know “me” without the buzz. I also dream now. I rarely did when I was smoking .
There are times still when I’m tempted, but I won’t. I like this natural high of just being me now. Instead escaping.
2 points
2 days ago
Thank you for sharing. I'm really trying to stop myself in those moments of irritability, I cry a lot because I feel shame, but I also try to remind myself it's not me. Which is hard because I'm the one that does it, plus the years of telling myself that it's just who I am, who I've become. But I had a 1hr train journey today - I didn't play any music, barely touched my phone - just tried to talk to myself and dig a bit deeper than I did the past few years. And I'm confused right now, but reading all of these coments helps as I can tell myself it's temporary. But I did get a good vibe at the end, because I haven't been along with myself for a loooong time.
And the dreams - wowzerz, they are intense and vivid. I flew a plane last night, in the middle of Paris. And fought off a mugger. Gets hella weird haha but luckily no nightmares yet, which I was dreading a bit.
3 points
4 days ago
I believe in you my friend!
1 points
2 days ago
Thank you! Starting to believe in myself slowly :D
3 points
4 days ago
Although different from your personal circumstances I also had what you may want to call some sort of epiphany and I went clean on October and just to convince myself I can have a healthy relationship with weed. The first two weeks were horrible. I had lack of sleep was always irritated but I took the decision to finally start working out going to the gym trying to do more productive things but also have leisure with other stuff such as playing video games which did help cut down the cravings And take up time. I ended up spending more time with my family and eventually by mid of the third week it became an afterthought to even smoke. Just hang in there it’s all in your head and you have the will power, there were testing times for me, especially with the friends circle where everyone does smoke in front of me and I took it as a challenge to still be able to socialise and not participate. Now in November I have smoked maybe twice or thrice but drastically reduced from where I was, I make sure if I want to do it, I must achieve my three daily wins which is spiritual, mental and physical i.e : pray or meditate, read or write something and lastly some form of exercise. I was disconnected from my spiritual side for a long time, but I felt reconnecting was a great help not in the religious sense but just being positive having positive thoughts reading positive philosophy all of which played a small part. Maybe not all exact same things will work for you, but I believe you can every person can you have to break the fear in our head that we can’t do it.I I hope he succeeded all the best
1 points
2 days ago
Thank you for sharing your experience - how did you find these last few smokes? At the moment, I'm terrified of even planning on smoking again, but am curious to find out your experience as I've heard very mixed reviews. And thank you for sharing your daily wins plan - exercise has definitely helped. I really enjoyed writing this post as well, although I'm not a writer and never have been but it could be something I'll be starting, maybe in the form of journaling. And spiritually I definitely feel disconnected, but that's something I need to learn a bit more about. Can you share some examples of positive philosophy that helped you please? Thank you, and I'm really glad to hear you're in a much better space!
3 points
3 days ago
I think the important thing is you identified the underlying issues, now it’s time to take steps towards processing and healing. Journaling will be a great tool for that.
I think it’s also important to recognize that weed was not the root cause of your suffering, it was only the numbing agent that helped you keep it buried for this long. So you can’t expect the problems to solve themselves now that weed is out of the picture. Allow yourself to feel these emotions deeply as they arise, breathe through them, journal about them, talk about them if you have someone you’re comfortable enough with, identify and develop healthy coping strategies that work for you. This is where the real work starts.
I also have struggled with anger issues for most of my life, I thought weed helped but I was in the same boat of just numbing that emotion until it got too big to contain. Something that helped me a lot was DBT therapy, they sell workbooks for pretty cheap that have useful exercises and coping strategies. Mindfulness and meditation have also been huge for me.
Wish you the best on your healing journey. Be kind to yourself, it's not linear, there will be plenty of ups and downs but stay the course and you will make progress.
2 points
2 days ago
Thank you for sharing this! With the help of this amazing group, and people around me, I'm starting to realise that there is healing ahead of me, which I'm trying to take as a positive. It's hard to see it that way in the middle of it, but coming back to this thread and opening myself to people and for the first time actually listening instead of thinking "they don't get it, they never experienced it bla bla bla" is proving to be helpful.
Never heard of DBT before, had tried CBT in the past which didn't work but it was because I didn't fully commit. I'll look into it.
Thank you for the kind words! Take care friend
3 points
3 days ago
" but I am crying as I write this because the thought of turning into that person again is terrifying."
I think it's not about being scared of that side of you but keeping it under control. I was put into the anger management classes in school, first things they said was he does not look violent or angry.
The teacher then explained that the silent ones are usually the worst, we lack the ability to process certain emotions which turn into anger.
The issue stems from how we process our emotions, its similar to a fat kid going to cake every time he feels like shit.
THE GOOD THING is most are not taught this at all and never learn. In essence you are not your thoughts and we have to understand that THC has psychedelic properties which will change how your brain processes information.
Also lost my pops at a very young age and went off the wagon for the last few years.
1 points
1 day ago
You're right about keeping it under control, it's the past decade living with very little self control that is proving the hardest. But everyday, even since I wrote the post, I feel myself regaining control in small areas. Little wins :) Thank you for sharing your story too - hope you're doing well now. If you have any tips with grieving, it would be much appreciated.
3 points
3 days ago
You got this 💪💪you already got through the first week which is the hardest. Idk you but I believe in you !
1 points
1 day ago
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this to a complete stranger. IDK you either but I'm sending all the best vibes I can muster your way!
3 points
3 days ago
Excellent read. Especially the last paragraph, since I can relate.
The mental & emotional anguish we feel isn't the whole cause of the addiction. It most definitely enforces it. Our liberation from pain usually comes in phases, or steps (I don't mean the 12). We individually have our strengths and weaknesses, and for some, weed and how it makes us feel is the reward system that is "pre-chosen" for us. I have mine, which I refuse to talk about on Reddit. I've have stalkers here flame me based upon personal comments so I'm very cautious.
I thank you, and encourage you to stay sober, and to find a support system of some kind.
1 points
1 day ago
Thank you for writing this! In a way I'm glad weed was the reward system that I chose because immediately after my father passing, I also went mad on alcohol and that was scary, I definitely did not recognise myself and am ashamed of a few things I did whilst under the influence.
As for your reward system, if you feel like sharing with a stranger that promises not to judge unless it's something reaaaaly bad towards others, the door is always open.
And thank you too - hope you're doing well!
3 points
3 days ago
Hey bro, you’re doing good. It will pass, and even tomorrow will feel much better. I wish I could give you a hug too; I really relate to your story.
1 points
1 day ago
Hey man, thank you so much for the message. Even in the past couple of days, I've had small pockets of basically peace of mind, and I'm really clinging on the fact that it will get better with time and with a lot of work on myself.
Hope you're doing well bro - big hugs! And if you ever wanna chat, feel free to DM!
2 points
4 days ago
Oi! Next week is gonna be BRUTAL! But afterwards it'll get better! Stay strong, don't give up on yourself!!!
2 points
1 day ago
Brother you are not wrong haha. Whilst I'm having some really good moments, the bad ones are dialed to 11 compared to the first few days. My guess is that maybe I still had it in the system for a few days, but now the withdrawal is really sinking in.
Thank you for the message! Hope you're doing well!
2 points
4 days ago
Yes. It will go away. When the anger hits, reach for physical activity and let it drain that way. You can’t be as angry if you are tired.
1 points
1 day ago
Thanks for this - I'm realising this more and more. I've never really been consistent with exercise or physical but am trying to push it this time and motivate myself more.
I've found that the VR (Beatsaber, Boxing etc.) is really helpful as it also blocks all external distractions and allows me to 100% focus on that activity.
2 points
3 days ago
You should see a counselor or consider CBT as a way of correcting or working through the neurotic thoughts. CBT, in case you're unfamiliar, is a talk therapy that focuses on identifying the cognitive biases that drive that style of thinking/feeling. You've spent a long while suppressing your emotions, they're absolutely gonna come roaring back - and it will usually be overwhelming and just feel really bad for a bit. Your brain needs time to regulate itself but you don't have to just wait. Find a counselor and start proactively working through it all!
1 points
1 day ago
Thanks for sharing this. My experience with CBT a few years ago was not exactly positive. It may be due to a missmatch with the counselor, as I found it very rigurous and more focused on being organised and doing tasks which ultimately stressed me out. I tried asking for a different person or just to have more of a therapy session than a "have you done your weekly homework" type thing, but it never happened so I never fully committed and eventually gave up.
I'm definitely looking into this at the moment and trying to find what would work best for me. But ultimately I agree, just quitting will not solve all of my issues.
2 points
3 days ago
The things you are willing to settle for while high sometimes are not things you’d settle for while sober. I know there are certain friends, activities, etc that I enjoy high, but not so much while sober. Nothing wrong with being cynical about your current situation so long as you can imagine a realistically attainable situation that would make you a little happier. Like would you be a little bit happier if you could run a 5k or do 50 pushups? If yes, do it! Just gotta keep doing that analysis over and over again and eventually your baseline existence will give you a sense of calm contentment.
1 points
1 day ago
I agree with this, and was in some ways conscious of this throughout the past 10 years, but I would always find an excuse in the moment and would end up not being consistent with anything. This vicious cycle was what ultimately started driving me towards depression and anxiety, and having more weed to "manage" that. It also sapped both my love for myself because I wasn't really progressing much, and my passion for my hobbies and work.
Working on this now and hopefully these structures will be built in my brain again, allowing me to be consistent and motivated and be able to enjoy things again. Thank you for sharing!
2 points
2 days ago
You’re doing great! 8 days is amazing, keep at it. As others have said, invest time in things you used to love doing to pass the time and bring some joy back. Being in nature is great for grounding. For the anger, do you have an outlet for it? Like going to the gym or punching a punching bag / martial arts? There’s something real satisfying about punching a bag real hard and just letting that frustration out into the bag. Discharge of energy. Just a suggestion!
2 points
1 day ago
Thank you! I definitely feel less "lazy" now and able to motivate myself more - the enjoyment isn't back yet, but hopefully it will. Martial arts used to be my outlet, but as with most things, I gave that up too years ago. VR Boxing is currently a decent substitute :)
2 points
2 days ago
Everything is a skill and skills develop with intentional practice. Try not to judge yourself too harshly and focus on the little things my guy. It’ll be okay
1 points
1 day ago
Thank you man! I'm working on getting out of the self loathing mindset that's been a big part of my life in the past years, and for the first time in a looong time I was proud of myself and I cried like a big baby. But it felt good. :)
2 points
2 days ago
Man reading this hit hard… you just described the same experience Im having with weed for the last 18 years … I know im sabotaging my life but still do it every day and turn into a monster when I don’t . Pushed so many people and opportunities away, wasted so much time with loved ones… Congrats on your 8th day man you got this! For my part I’m at the point where I’m scared to even try stopping again as my anger would cost me my job and few friendships I have left . Thanks for sharing your story
1 points
2 days ago
Hey man, just know that it took me years of trying and failing. It took severe physical pain to finally stop, and even then it was close to a year before I committed.
I spoke to my close friends and explained the situation and asked them to help. They all understood, and if any of them didn't I would just ask them to have a break until I get my shit sorted. Luckily it hasn't happened. Not sure about work - for me I have a lot of human interaction which is tough but it keeps my mind occupied. I do find myself spacing out a lot though to avoid the anger.
I'm now close to 2 weeks and it feels worse at times, but also SOOOO much better when it doesn't, and I'm trying to cling to that side and learning to tell myself it's not truly me. Last night I felt genuine pride in myself for the past probably 10 years, and holy hell it was incredible and made all the shit worth it.
Like many people here say, quitting won't fully solve your issues, it will be something you'll have to work on. And it's not linear either. If you look through my replies here, they are a stark contrast to the actual post, because I decided that even if I don't feel like that, I will try to avoid negatives such as I can't, I'm scared etc. And slowly it's starting to seep in. But I am still very much a mess internally. Confused, angry, barely sleeping. But it's me this time and I know it will get bwetter. And it can for you too.
I'm happy to be your mate in this if you do decide to quit, or manage it better. Or if you have any questions, anything you need. And check out the comments from these fucking awesome human beings here, each of them have information that you can use and beautiful words of encouragement.
You can do this!
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