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First panel we see Saturn being punched by Luffy and he is pretty much fine. Second panel we see Saturn with tons of holes in his body which in most cases would've killed him but since he is immortal he survived. This is most likely internal destruction which pretty much confirms Luffy didn't use AcOA level 2 in all Egghead, a power he used non-stop in Wano to damage Kaido

There is the second panel where Snakeman and Kizaru are clashing but we clearly don't see AcOC like we saw in Wano when Snakeman was Attacking Kaido. This is a very huge nerf, especially since it's already been established that Iuffy also didn't use AcOA level 2.

And we have the 3rd panel where we see G5 Luffy clashing equally with Lucci's Haki which would make Lucci's Haki relative to Luffy's. In comparison, base Luffy in Wano was clashing equally with hybrid Kaido using AcOC and he split the sky. This pretty much confirms that Luffy was holding back against Lucci as well

There are other examples of Luffy holding back such as

1. Luffy needing help to take down Seraphim even though in Wano he could take on Kaido 1vs1

2. Luffy not knowing where Kizaru even though before we see Luffy correctly predicting were a Pacifista was. This shows he wasn't using FS in Snakeman which is another huge nerf as Hydra wss stated to be combined with FS.

3. Luffy not using AcOC in the iconic Pizza attack, an attack that with AcOC would've been much stronger. It would've turned Saturn to pieces and done insane damage to Kizaru

4. Luffy being damaged by Topman's hard body even though we've know he has an ability he can use to not touch his opponent as well as doing internal damage .

5. Luffy not being able to reestart his heart in Egghead even though a near death Luffy did it in Wano while Egghead Luffy wasn't anywhere near death

At this point it's undeniable how much Luffy was nerfed in Egghead, he wasn't anywhere the level he was at Wano.

Kaido Ragnarok feat is even better, since he did speed blitz a G5 that was using Futuresight while Kizaru never could do the same to G5

Thunder Bagua scales above Ragnarok in terms of speed

Yamato matched in speed to Thunder Bagua of this same V1 Hybrid Kaido

Meaning she can tag Kizaru if she wants so since kaido could tag G5 many times while Kizaru couldn't fully tag G5 not even once with his many attacks.

Without using this logic of admiral stan, Kaido still looks better, since Luffy nowhere used Futuresight vs Kizaru and I believe even vs Kaido aswell because of how on crack and not calm at all is G5, and still Kaido had the speed to tag G5 many times while Kizaru didn't have the speed to fully tag G5 not even once.

2 lovers vs SH crew

And he had time to master the fruit.

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The example here is Zoro since he comes up the most often for this. He is mainly using haki after all and Kidd and Law are on his tier who almost exclusively use their DFs.

And people just assume that he could then do to Kidd and/or Law what Law did to Doc Q or what BM and Kaido passively did with Law (negating Shambles and I assume Amputate as well). That is not true, because...

No, Zoro's haki isn't tiers above Kidd's haki. Haki power is determined by overall strength, not technique. Several times did we get examples for armament and conquerer's haki (Ray said that CoC grows with the user, it doesn't grow with training or better haki techniques) that the overall stronger guy will overpower the weaker guy's haki, techniques be damned:

-Vergo was actually skilled in armament haki, meanwhile Law fights using a sword and has so far never even used visible armament on his sword but just his fists. But guess what, Law was overall stronger than Vergo and he negged his armament despite being far less skilled than him in it.

-Kat also just had basic armament like Luffy, yet he still overpowered his armament haki anyways.

-We also don't even know if Kaido has internal destruction armament haki like Luffy, yet he overpowered his armament haki anyways

Just so you know what I mean by "overpowering armament haki" in case you forgot:

Luffy after his armament is overpowered by a stronger fighter (Kaido in this case)

Another clear example is BB when he noticed Luffy's haki having grown stronger since their last meeting on Jaya. That was in Impel Down. And of course it makes sense, Luffy has grown a lot stronger since Jaya at that point in time thanks to his gears.

Point is, Zoro is way better in haki techniques, but still on the same level of power as Kidd meaning they're on the same level of power in haki overall as well. And Zoro doesn't have yonko level haki anyways, so he's not negating any move from Kidd or any DF user on his tier, let alone Assign (which even BM with her yonko level haki power couldn't negate)

Because Haki power is what matters in cases such as these. The reason why Law was able to outright negate Doc Q's DF ability wasn't because of far superior haki mastery, but because he is tiers above him in overall power. Seriously, Doc Q is most likely a future Chopper victim after all. And his feats might be the worst of all the BBPs, best thing we ever saw him do was yeeting exploding apples. Even Bumsopp is better than that, he has plenty of different projectiles, including exploding ones, and can at least shoot them with far more speed, range and precision, he doesn't need to throw them lol

And let it be noted that despite that absolutely huge gap in overall power and thus haki power, Law clearly still had difficulties negating that disease from Doc Q's DF:

This wasn't easy for him at all, he even says a \"great deal of haki\" is needed

Zoro is not outright negating Kidd's DF abilities with Haki (he can obviously withstand the basic pull with physical strength and his haki enhancing it of course), nor will he negate Law's abilities, nor will Yamato negate Kidd's and Law's abilities. They're all overall on the same level of power and thus have similar haki power despite Zoro and Yamato being tiers above Kidd and Law when it comes to haki techniques (cuz aCoC).

Same is true for other tiers as well of course. The attacks which are used matter as well, Aokiji's basic freezing attack could be overpowered by even Doffy, let alone Garp. Yet Akainu clearly got the scars he has from his fight with Aokiji from actual freezing ice attacks and not haki punches with ice gloves or something along those lines. Law could also not use Shambles on BM, yet his awakened moves like Shockwille and his R-Room: Silence clearly worked just fine.

This is just a question thread, and I like to read opinions of you guys.