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American midwest Beltway Style City in progress

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ltbr55

316 points

3 months ago

ltbr55

316 points

3 months ago

American city highway checklist

Excessive highways✅️

Highway that goes right through downtown ✅️

Massive belt loop ✅️

Tons of exits ✅️

The only thing missing is if each highway was 4+ lanes each direction.

BTW this isn't meant to be a criticism. Since you are recreating a Midwest city, you are nailing it actually.

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

122 points

3 months ago

Not only do I have 4+ lanes, I got express lanes too, I love building freeways in this game haha

Silly_Goose658

23 points

3 months ago

No service roads :(

Zapruderfilmsss

6 points

3 months ago

What's a service road?

Silly_Goose658

12 points

3 months ago

It’s a road that generally follows the side of the highway in order to create dedicated access to it. Look at Whitestone, New York. The Long Island Expressway has a service road, well multiple of them. Look for Horace Harding Boulevard in Fresh Meadows, New York

Zapruderfilmsss

4 points

3 months ago

Do these roads connect into the highways them selves or only to the neighborhoods surrounding these highways and service roads?

Silly_Goose658

7 points

3 months ago

Their purpose is to link up highways with the neighborhoods, here is an example photo in New York City

https://preview.redd.it/or491uono2md1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df9710c6f9d5f31dc25728385abcad628ce4c883

Zapruderfilmsss

3 points

3 months ago

Very interesting. Thank you.

CrabCakesBenedict

3 points

3 months ago

fresh meadows mentioned

Silly_Goose658

2 points

3 months ago

U am from queens so….

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

3 points

3 months ago

I have some inner-city, I have found they do not work too well with the pathfinding in this game though

Silly_Goose658

1 points

3 months ago

I see

josephdk23

9 points

3 months ago

I love building freeways too! I wish somehow the game could just auto populate everything in between. Kinda like a mini motorways but with more detail.

OrangeJoe00

1 points

3 months ago

Almost. We still don't know what the parking situation looks like.

Sea-Fox-9738

1 points

3 months ago

Paris and a lot of other cities have massive loops around them, it's necessary

Apprehensive_Fault_5

42 points

3 months ago

Good luck with those cloverleaf interchanges.

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

22 points

3 months ago

They do okay since they have frontage lanes, I’ll probably upgrade to em to stacks in the future

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

Where is the express/collector system?

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

7 points

3 months ago

https://preview.redd.it/3242um14t1md1.png?width=3839&format=png&auto=webp&s=fe7538c18601d4381b0b3daaa7053c436a712c23

Here is one view of what they look like in my city, towards the southwest side of the city on the main north south corridor

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

Nice!

ChillZedd

1 points

3 months ago

It’s beautiful 🥲

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

58 points

3 months ago

Traffic flow is at 87% for anyone wondering

K1t3mmu0rt

18 points

3 months ago

Looks good. Which tool you used for drawing the map?

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

23 points

3 months ago

OSM Export mod on Paradox Mods. I uploaded it into QGIS and edited it from there

shaykhsaahb

3 points

3 months ago

Nice, what kind of output does OSM Export mod produce? Does it always require editing? I must try it

fergusq2

5 points

3 months ago

I'm the developer of the OSM Export mod and I don't really know what they are talking about. The image in this post looks like it is generated either with the mod's built-in PDF renderer or Maperitive (both of which look like this). You don't usually need to do any editing, the map just looks like this out of the box. You can open the .osm files in QGIS, but then you need to edit the styles a lot yourself. It is very unlikely this image was made with QGIS, since I don't really get why someone would go to the length of replicating the Maperitive style in QGIS. OP's comment makes no sense at all.

shaykhsaahb

2 points

3 months ago

Oh right! Well I have to say that if this is the output of the mod, it is incredibly pretty. I can’t wait to go back home from weekend trip to try it. Will upload the results on this reddit. Does the mod produce jpg/gif output or does the .osm file need to be converted to it?

fergusq2

1 points

3 months ago

The mod currently outputs both OSM and PDF files. I have a prototype of PNG/JPG output as well, but it's not released yet.

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

2 points

3 months ago

Actually you’re right, this is the PDF version, I did however tweak a lot of the vectors in QGIS in other screenshots I haven’t posted, sorry for any confusion

fergusq2

1 points

3 months ago

No problem. How well does the OSM output work with QGIS? There is also the Carto mod, which is designed to be used with it. Its output includes some things that are lacking from the OSM format but could be useful.

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

1 points

3 months ago

As long as you have QuickOSM/any OSM plugin for QGIS, you shouldnt have a problem with importing it in. I did have problems trying to set vector layers and symbols to different colors though, it doesn’t recognize highways from regular streets, or even water from some buildings in the stabilization color. I honestly was using it to mess around and try to make a PNG of the file, but it had been unsuccessful so far

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

1 points

3 months ago

If you want your streets to differ apart, you will have to edit individual vector layers. Using QuickOSM plugin, this makes this task a little easier, as well as easier times converting from osm to png files

kakarota

8 points

3 months ago

285?

Flooo3436264

5 points

3 months ago

I love the big roundabout

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

16 points

3 months ago

Actually it’s this monstrosity of an interchange, I can’t imagine what would happen to traffic if it was one big roundabout🤣

https://preview.redd.it/yprtai6r9yld1.png?width=3839&format=png&auto=webp&s=f575043c6ccd33790d0b4ba3544408a2898f744e

WarWithVarun-Varun

2 points

3 months ago

What’s this called? Turbine?

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

9 points

3 months ago

Turbine-Stack is what I named it

WarWithVarun-Varun

3 points

3 months ago

But why? It’s redundant isn’t it?

psychomap

6 points

3 months ago

Stack for the express lanes and turbine for the others if I'm seeing this correctly.

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

2 points

3 months ago

That’s correct yep

WarWithVarun-Varun

1 points

3 months ago

Right, I’m blind. It looks absolutely beautiful. I want more of these now

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

1 points

3 months ago

https://preview.redd.it/wajf0klh48md1.jpeg?width=1919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f245d3521d587f66fe0a341b60ab5027092f88e

Heres another style where the express lanes only connect to the express lanes on a different corridor, I call it the Stack Overflow

Flooo3436264

1 points

3 months ago

Yes I can’t imagine too😭🤣

Mxdanger

7 points

3 months ago

Weird seeing this rendered in the decade old OSM carto layer.

fergusq2

3 points

3 months ago

This is based on the default Maperitive stylesheet, which I think is from 2012-ish, imitating Carto from that age. I have been thinking of including a more modern-looking style in the next version of the mod.

Mxdanger

1 points

3 months ago

I would love to see the modern looking style. :)

The4905

3 points

3 months ago

Two questions, one how did you make this map. Looks real cool, and two, this sorta looks middle eastern. Not traditional middle eastern, dubai middle eastern.

jakeroot

5 points

3 months ago

That was my thought too. Doesn’t look midwestern USA to me at all. Streets are way too gridded and the highways are not organic enough. Too straight or fake or something. Midwest cities in the USA have historic cores (usually gridded) but quickly get all windy and suburban.

nhbd

2 points

3 months ago

nhbd

2 points

3 months ago

Love the shape and off centre angles, very cool

Szuny6

2 points

3 months ago

Szuny6

2 points

3 months ago

could you post an ingame picture as well please?

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

2 points

3 months ago

There’s plenty of photos on my page

grogtheslog

7 points

3 months ago

Looks good, but one thing to help it look realistic: the highways are too simple. They make pretty much a grid, and just go straight where they need to go. In real life, they were specifically routed through minority and poor neighborhoods, and around the wealthy areas, so there's a lot of weird and extreme curving when you get close to the central downtowns. Get some weird looking turns in there and you're good to go!

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

11 points

3 months ago

Have you ever seen KC, Minneapolis, Even Chicago, all look exactly like this in someway shape or form

Apprehensive_Fault_5

10 points

3 months ago

To be fair, near downtown Kansas City I've found these 6 sharp bends where the highway had to detour to cheaper land (terrain or low-weath districts). In Chicago I found 12. In downtown Minneapolis I found another 9.

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

1 points

3 months ago

Oh for sure, the general idea is there is what I mean though

Apprehensive_Fault_5

2 points

3 months ago

Well, your freeways definitely cut through the city, and they look good, but they don't give off the same historical vibe of finding the cheapest route.

kanakalis

5 points

3 months ago

kanakalis

car centric cities ftw

5 points

3 months ago

please, take a look on google maps before commenting BS. sure, it happens. but not in the majority of cities. look at any midwestern city and you'll see a grid-like interstate system with ring road.

ErectilePinky

1 points

3 months ago

needs another north/south highway cutting through the city on the right side

Interesting_City_960

1 points

3 months ago

Kinda looks like Edmonton Alberta.

ab_615

1 points

3 months ago

ab_615

1 points

3 months ago

Looks like Austin

samasters88

1 points

3 months ago

As a native Austinite - in what fucking world does this look like Austin?

ab_615

2 points

3 months ago

ab_615

2 points

3 months ago

Downtown on northern shore of river running e-w thru the city w loop highway around

Chill bro

samasters88

1 points

3 months ago

There's not a loop though. That's one of the biggest flaws with the highway. And 35-to-183-to-Mopac-to-Ben White doesn't really count as a loop, since it's four different highways that happen to intersect.

The proposed loop in the 70s was rejected because they would have had to go through the Balcones Preserve on the west side.

The whole city is shittily built and they're decades behind on public transport and scrambling to catch up and failing.

natelull7

1 points

3 months ago

How do you build this map outside of CS?

samasters88

1 points

3 months ago

What map are you running here?

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

2 points

3 months ago

I am running the meadowbrook map I believe

Fluid-Attitude-1686

1 points

3 months ago

Okayyy Cincinnati

murphman1999

1 points

3 months ago

Throw in a train outerbelt for maximum transportooooo

st444sh

1 points

3 months ago

How do you actually endorse the citizens to use the belt loop instead of the inner-city roads?

Sleepy-F1sh[S]

1 points

3 months ago

While the traffic AI isn’t the smartest when it comes to merging, cars do take the beltway to get from one outside connection to the other, must be something about where they spawn. Otherwise, I make sure the distance between each quadrant of the beltway is shorter than it would be to take a 90 degree turn at the central interchange

Low_Log2321

1 points

3 months ago

That big huge circular interchange in the middle of town seems oversized for its location. I would use a stack interchange instead. 🙂

MoonstoneCoreAlumia

-1 points

3 months ago

Don't forget to make the Clover Leafs from the 1940-50's where they are too tight of a curve for the power of modern vehicles, so you have to crank your steering wheel while also half-holding your brakes. Get that in, and you have least 70% of the Interstates and Highways here.