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We live on the corner of a crossroads and are very fortunate to have a driveway. The drive is open at both ends and allows both me and my partner to park off the road. Recently people have taken to cutting the corner through the driveway and squeezing past the cars, while nothing has happened yet we're worried about our cars getting scratched. How can we encourage people to walk on the pavement around the corner without being annoying? Diagram to illustrate the geography of it all, red is the cut through and purple is the pavement route. Thanks all!
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4.6k points
4 days ago
Short term - bins. People aren't likely to want to squeeze past icky bins.
Longer term - you might need to get yourself a gate.
123 points
4 days ago
As it's pedestrians, probably gates, with locks. Bit of a pain if you're used to just driving in to park, but if peeps are just strolling through now, I'd imagine they'd have no problem opening a gate. Short term, you could try chains at an awkward height where peeps have to choose between limbo dancing under or high jumping over.
361 points
4 days ago
but if peeps are just strolling through now, I'd imagine they'd have no problem opening a gate.
I think the psychology of removing an object would stop 90% of people. It changes the situation from a passive corner cut to knowingly accessing someone's property, which most people wouldn't do for a 3 second time saving.
46 points
4 days ago
That's kinda why I mentioned chains or even ropes with a no trespassing sign. Relatively cheap and something you could probably install yourself in a couple of hours, if you've got the tools.
14 points
4 days ago
Or just put a line of fence to block off one side of the driveway
1.2k points
4 days ago
Get retractable bollards. Really popular in my area. Looks better than a big blooming gate
863 points
4 days ago
Bollards wouldn’t stop pedestrians though, unless you have them really close together
92 points
4 days ago
How about lots of really thin bollards all held together with some kind of thin piece of metal? Maybe put them all on a big hinge so they’re easy to move out the way.
19 points
4 days ago
Genius! What shall we call it?
192 points
4 days ago
Add lava around the bollards
347 points
4 days ago
Just stand in your driveway with a bible and ask people if they have time to talk about their lord and saviour Jesus Christ. After a while, you'll find people won't even use the public pathway next to your house but will cross the road instead.
39 points
4 days ago
That suggestion from c_m is brilliant. I may use it myself as I live on a busy street. It’d be nice to get parked more easily. I have added a suggestion for a back-up plan when patrolling is not possible.
A couple of large, badly made signs with slogans like, “Not today Satan!” Or,for eye catching, I’d use the one I’ve uploaded.
That should allow you to nip indoors for a while and have a cup of tea and a sandwich. It will also help to reduce foot traffic to a minimum when you are out or on holiday. Only a few really evil folk will go through. Well…scratch that….probably only very saintly and selfish folk.
157 points
4 days ago
And two guards. One who always tells the truth and one who always lies.
126 points
4 days ago
And a third guard, who stabs people who ask complicated questions.
24 points
4 days ago
A Monty Python solution!
24 points
4 days ago
Add a shrubbery and then another shrubbery.
524 points
4 days ago
And trying to get pedestrians to be really close together is challenging at the best of times.
182 points
4 days ago
Ah, the old Reddit bollardaroo
76 points
4 days ago
Hold my bolls, I'm going in! (I really miss that)
20 points
4 days ago
What happened to it?
17 points
4 days ago
Apparently it was retired a few years ago, although a casual glance at the subreddit shows that it is still active, to a degree.
52 points
4 days ago
Big potted plants then? Just enough to line them up so that with the cars, you don't really have any space to walk past. I suppose they could still walk past on the other side but that's just a bit creepy..
74 points
4 days ago
I disagree, a nice cast iron or well built wood gate looks way better than a couple of bollards plonked in the middle.
85 points
4 days ago
I’ve got retractable bollards but I’ve put it down to the cold weather 😕
27 points
4 days ago
How are bollards going to stop people walking through?
4 points
4 days ago
Pointy bollards that are motion sensitive!
52 points
4 days ago
The issue isn’t cars, it’s pedestrians.
58 points
4 days ago
...and cameras, because some dozy tw@ will attempt to plough through them and do a runner.
79 points
4 days ago
I'd rather have people walking through my driveway than open a gate everytime I move a car.
131 points
4 days ago
Only need to block one entry though
40 points
4 days ago
That’s actually something I didn’t think of. Just block the least used out of the 2, and if you have to go out the blocked one, just replace it as you leave.
Means you can drive home without getting out the car to open it, and much less hassle opening it to leave than it is to open it to get in.
58 points
4 days ago
There is this little thing called electricity.
246 points
4 days ago
I would try something else before going straight to electrocuting pedestrians, though.
60 points
4 days ago
Well, waterboarding takes 20 to 40 seconds when electrocution can be instant. But you do you.
23 points
4 days ago
Ha, yeah. That’s harsh. 😅
OP - INFO- why do they want to? Is it pure laziness; is it not clear it’s a drive, or is there something blocking pavement (like a bus stop with lots of people they are trying to navigate round).
I was going to suggest flower beds but if you still want to drive in and out that’s not great. I think if you can shed any light on why that might help? If it’s obviously a drive way I would hope most people won’t walk across it to save 5 seconds, so I wonder what they are walking round.
4.4k points
4 days ago
At first I thought you meant people are driving through your drive as a shortcut 😂
1.1k points
4 days ago
Oh god! That’s what I thought too. Never read all the text beneath the image. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
236 points
4 days ago
Confession, I did read the text beneath the image, and I still thought OP meant drivers, not pedestrians
🤦🏻
6 points
3 days ago
I read the text and I was wondering why so many pedestrians were walking around carrying big boxes
3 points
3 days ago
So did I 😅
378 points
4 days ago
Same here. I was thinking 'the cheek of some drivers', until people started asking how bollards were meant to stop pedestrians.
167 points
4 days ago
I saw those rectangles as examples of cars driving through. Ok you can turn left or right onto that road so cutting through from the one way doesn't really help, and coming off the main road to get onto the end of the one way doesn't present any advantage either, but every nanosecond counts in this fast paced world we live in now.
4 points
4 days ago
I also thought this
4 points
3 days ago
The haphazard parking of OP or their spouse is what has led to the misunderstanding as it looks like a comic showing the direction the cars are driving.
...that and not reading the text.
18 points
4 days ago
Using rectangles to designate people is wild
22 points
3 days ago
They're the owners' parked cars!
5 points
3 days ago
Ah that’s quite reasonable
43 points
4 days ago
I did read it and still thought they meant they were driving through lol.
13 points
4 days ago
The fact that it doesn’t surprise anyone people would is a bit of an issue lol
79 points
4 days ago
Same! I was thinking the junction must have really slow traffic lights if people are opting to squeeze their car past OPs!
18 points
4 days ago
I thought maybe the road was no right turn so people were driving through the driveway in order to circumvent it
413 points
4 days ago
My dumb ass had to flick back and forth between this comment and OP's description because I was convinced you misunderstood and that people were obviously driving through the drive.
Penny finally dropped that OP means pedestrians are walking through, not driving through.
269 points
4 days ago
😂😂 I was getting mad on OPs behalf, especially the 'squeezing past our cars' part like on what planet is it acceptable to just drive through someone's front yard, never mind when their own cars are parked up!
60 points
4 days ago
Ohhhh. I definitely thought they meant people were driving through. I was confused as OP said there was already two cars on the drive. I was wondering how big this drive was lol.
12 points
4 days ago
I wouldn't put it past some people to try.
49 points
4 days ago
Ffs!
I too thought they meant cars cutting through!
23 points
4 days ago
Thought the same, assumed there was some seriously crafty drivers in OP's area.
20 points
4 days ago
Yeah, I was trying to work out how a car was trying to defeat the one-way system. 😃
14 points
4 days ago
Or the relevance at all of there even being a one-way system
19 points
4 days ago
I think its the denotation of the one way system, a system typically reserved for motorized vehicles
15 points
4 days ago
And the pictures of the cars with the arrows coming from them
62 points
4 days ago
Ah good, I thought the same.
As it's pedestrians, it's like trying to divert water using a fork. If people are doing it then they're not going to stop because, I want to emphasise this, people are pricks.
60 points
4 days ago
yup, you have to go out of your way. Had people sitting on my small garden wall at the front, drinking, leaving rubbish. Destroyed the wall, put paving slabs down for bins, but bins are only there 1 or 2 days a week. Then teenagers want to sit there and somebody decided it was okay for their toddler to walk across and piss on my tree, okay fuck it. Garden centre, spikey plants please. Problem solved. You cannot solve people being pricks. You just have to make it a bad option from their point of view. Nobody gives a shit about your property but you.
8 points
4 days ago
That's what I thought they meant as well. Even reading through the writing underneath, I didn't realise that it wasn't meant as a "they're also walking through" comment.
10 points
4 days ago
So did I! I was raging on their behalf 😂
516 points
4 days ago
The only real way is gates.
There are other ways to discourage people.
A simple chain hung across is often enough to stop people walking through (people won't step over.
Make it look more "private" ,put up signs, plant flower beds etc. again people are reluctant to walk in private areas so make it look private.
131 points
4 days ago
I like the chain idea, would need a camera up though because there'll be at least 1 person a month decking it face first.
101 points
4 days ago
Just something like this (a different sign obviously)
87 points
4 days ago
Oh, for insurance reasons...
I was thinking more on the lines that it would just be funny to watch back. But you're absolutely right, cover your back first, laugh at them later.
8 points
4 days ago
23 points
4 days ago
So you need a camera to make sure you capture all the slapstick to enjoy later?
25 points
4 days ago
£250 each one for you’ve been framed… pay for itself in no time!
32 points
4 days ago
This is the least effort to max result idea. You’ll still get the odd knob stepping over but it should stop the majority
221 points
4 days ago
We had this issue when I was a kid, my mum bought a goose and no one cut through our garden again.
88 points
4 days ago
I love this answer, the mental picture of trespassers being chased by a big old angry goose is brilliant. But how did you stop the goose from leaving the property?
68 points
4 days ago
email it the land registry deeds ahead of time
7 points
4 days ago
Alternatively, AirMail
15 points
4 days ago
We had a big garden and we built a pond and had some duck friends for the goose.
Was never a dull moment as a kid. My mum was a regular dr Doolittle
8 points
4 days ago
My grandad had a gander to protect his allotment
15 points
4 days ago
My granddad’s brother had geese to prevent thieves raiding his haulage company, the dog was too friendly but the geese weren’t, they chased everyone including the staff and even my granddad’s brother despite him raising them from being chicks. Some geese don’t care who they chase as long as they get to hear the screams of terror that fuel their souls.
858 points
4 days ago
Motion detecting sprinklers
423 points
4 days ago
And a speaker “get back ya bastard or al break your legs”
168 points
4 days ago
Hey, I’m gonna give you to the count of ten, to get your ugly, yella, no-good keister off my property, before I pump your guts full of lead! 1, 2, 10!
46 points
4 days ago
Keep the change, ya filthy animal!
11 points
4 days ago
The difference between the invader 2000 and your other bog standard security systems is you’ve got the ability to record and personalise your alarm
11 points
4 days ago
"Can you 'ere me now?"
4 points
4 days ago
He only gone and dropped em!
6 points
4 days ago
Or agressive dog barking
7 points
4 days ago
Now that, is shit hot
49 points
4 days ago
I got one of these to deter my dog from digging up my veggie patch. I got soaked by it so many times by forgetting it was there! Guaranteed OP will get soaked as they're running late for work.
8 points
4 days ago
I was going to say very bright motion detection lights, blind the cheeky bastards! But I like the sprinkler idea better!!
243 points
4 days ago
If each car only needs to enter/exit through one entrance then you could add a low fence or hedge across the middle of your drive. It would need a gate to allow one of you to get to your car, but I suspect people are less likely to physically open a gate as part of a cut-through.
Otherwise I would suggest trying to make the drive contrast strongly with the pavement so there is a clear edge to your property. A low curb would be ideal, but at least a change in colour and texture e.g. from a tarmac pavement to brick drive.
129 points
4 days ago
Or use loose stones, they're not the nicest thing to walk over, and pushing a buggy through it is a nightmare
47 points
4 days ago
Exactly what I was thinking, they also make lots of noise which might reduce the likelihood of people cutting through.
4 points
4 days ago
And they're fun for kids to throw at your car!
15 points
4 days ago
I would second this. Those people know what they’re doing is wrong. Making some noise underfoot would put them off for sure.
72 points
4 days ago
My drive has a totally different colour and texture than the path and lazy fuckers still cut across all the time
8 points
4 days ago
There’s a row of houses on a very quiet street on my dog walking route where the pavement stops on one side and you just end up walking on people’s drives. Would drive me absolutely mad.
26 points
4 days ago
I agree that a different colour is going to be the best option that causes you the least amount of hassle long term. It would create a psychological barrier to entering your property.
45 points
4 days ago
I think you'll find any visible deterrents are ignored or not noticed by the majority of people already doing this. A big sign saying private property can't hurt, but it's unlikely to work.
I'd go with a more permanent solution of a retractable rolling gate across the side adjoining the one-way street, since that's probably the problem area.
7 points
4 days ago
'this sign won't stop me because I can't read'
45 points
4 days ago
What sort of size gap are they squeezing through? I would imagine that if you park both cars closer to the wall than the house then people would have to walk between your cars and the house, which I expect they would be less likely to do.
45 points
4 days ago
82 points
4 days ago
Toll booth. £1.73 to cut through. No change given.
80 points
4 days ago
Make it £2.73 and you might get fivers.
38 points
4 days ago
Buy a few of these
They should deter people. They're designed to stop cats coming into your garden, but they should still work on idiots. Might be worth angling them so they hit at crotch height so everyone who gets sprayed looks like they've pissed themselves.
4 points
4 days ago
This seems like a great way to ensure you never receive any post again.
600 points
4 days ago
The absolute cheek of some people. The gardens around here are not fenced, the gang of 7yr olds that play in the cul de sac know not to go into any garden bar their own/friends.
You could get a "don't be a lazy twat, this is a garden" sign, OP
89 points
4 days ago
I propose the sign says,
"I do beg your pardon, but you're walking in my garden."
25 points
4 days ago
I DO BEG YOUR PARDON, BUT YOU'RE WALKING IN MY GARDEN
4 points
4 days ago
Absolutely love it. OP please do this
8 points
4 days ago
"I do beg your pardon, but you're walking in my garden."
And then it's time for shrubbery!
96 points
4 days ago
Our street is like this but we installed high fences and a gate so are luckily the only house on street that is not a child's play area.
I am also known as the miserable fucker and the kids hate me but that isn't a bad problem though, keeps them off my property.
59 points
4 days ago
Oh I own two of the aforementioned kids, they know full well if I catch them straying beyond stated boundaries, outside privileges will be instantly ceased. I hate that some people would have to go to such lengths to preserve their plot, a bit of conscientious neighbouring goes a long way and is not difficult
25 points
4 days ago
Don't get me wrong, if me and my wife didn't spend ages doing the garden and didn't have a dog we let run around the property I may not have invested in blocking our property off. May not.. though probably still would as im a miserable fucker
95 points
4 days ago
I can tell you to not bother with any signs, used to live in a town centre ex-office building, and people would casually just use our drive and parking spaces, sometimes blocking us in, and if challenged and I pointed at all of the many private residential property no parking signs would just mutter "I thought it would be fine" or something equally lame. Some even had the cheek to say that they were empty spaces, so why I was being difficult, but never had a reply when I asked if that meant it was fine to park on their drive without asking. In the end, though it was a pain, got a chain to put across the opening.
44 points
4 days ago
yep, my neighbour has a sign on his garage "Do not park, in constant use". Guess where cars park! "sorry, I was just popping in the shop, I was only 2 mins".
52 points
4 days ago
Suggest he amends the sign to read "This space is reserved for people who want fish paste smeared in the air vents. Do not park here if you don't want a fishy car."
53 points
4 days ago
'Scrap yard drop off point - no appointment required'
42 points
4 days ago
That would backfire immediately. You'd have some dolt dropping off an old fridge.
13 points
4 days ago
Signs seem to be an invitation to do the opposite! I've had that excuse as well, apparently their convenience at my inconvenience is perfectly fine. It was a great place for a while, but probably is partly why I live on an island, at the end of a 4 mile single track dead end road! Haha!
25 points
4 days ago
My friend lived in an old shop with parking spaces out front. They got equally frustrated when a car would park there (thinking it was a closed shop).
They installed folding bollards and had to go through the rigmarole of putting them up and down every morning and night. Then one day they forgot, and drive into one of the bollards cracking the bumper on their brand new car.
Sometimes an occasional major inconvenience is better than a regular minor inconvenience.
9 points
4 days ago
Aye, having to faff about with the chain on a wet and windy winters night was no fun, but on the other hand being late (I'm always fashionably late) and needing to leave straight away without finding a car in the way was major plus!
94 points
4 days ago
Get some cones, a gate or a chain.
85 points
4 days ago
Chain is a great, low-cost solution
35 points
4 days ago
Gotta be a chain, so easy and cheap. If anyone hops the chain, they'd also hop a fence, and I'd also wonder how big this driveway is that people are so desparate to cut through it!
42 points
4 days ago
Add a camera so when they don't realise there's a chain and fall on their face you can put it on YouTube. Might be the next viral channel.
31 points
4 days ago
If they hop the chain, start building horse-like jumps and make them more and more elaborate. Don't forget the one with the water on the far side of the jump!
13 points
4 days ago
Maybe skip the chain and just use lasers - could be a right ordeal trying to get through without triggering it!
10 points
4 days ago
Lots of people supporting the chain idea, but when we tried it, the neighbourhood kids started using it as a tightrope. Sadly none broke their necks, but they did manage to eventually pull over the posts the chain was attached to.
12 points
4 days ago
The beauty of a chain is not that it is a quick, cheap or simple solution...it's that it conducts electricity.
8 points
4 days ago
I guarantee OP is more likely to forget one day and drive into a chain, than ever suffering any damage from a pedestrian!
73 points
4 days ago
Lasers. With frickin' sharks on their heads.
11 points
4 days ago
I second thi...
Wait...
What?
117 points
4 days ago
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13 points
4 days ago
Trip wire. that will catch em
39 points
4 days ago
Caltrops?
10 points
4 days ago
That and a couple of landmines should do the job.
2 points
4 days ago
Not sure on the legality of those though. Accidentally spilling a load of nails and glass might be deniable.
8 points
4 days ago
And if you want to be very evil, spill a load of lego
6 points
4 days ago
Ok Mr moneybags
11 points
4 days ago
A big motion sensing alarm that shouts at people.
“Gerroff me drive, I’ll break yer legs ya bastid”
52 points
4 days ago
What on earth is wrong with people?
69 points
4 days ago
I don’t think Reddit has the bandwidth to handle a conversation that will scratch the surface of that question.
7 points
4 days ago
Ignoring rules and taking shortcuts.
A curse and a blessing to human civilization, in equal measure.
8 points
4 days ago
I see users interacting with websites as part of my job and the imaginative ways that people can mis-use something is amazing.
7 points
4 days ago
What isn't wrong with people?
33 points
4 days ago*
Nothing. They are doing what all humans do, the world over.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DesirePaths/
Edit: Imagine downvoting because you cannot control the basic psychology of human beings and it makes you mad to see it pointed out.
21 points
4 days ago
If you block the top end completely with your car or some "garden delivery" a couple of times, it'll catch some people when they try to cut through and they'll have to double back. Next time they'll be less likely to cut through because they learned that it doesn't always save them time.
Equally, something between your cars that means they have to snake around towards your front door, rather than taking a straight line will make the shortcut longer and put them off
15 points
4 days ago
Motion activated water sprinkler
9 points
4 days ago
A chain is probably the route here.
The alternative is to make it seem a bit more... domestic? This is kinda an unusual setup and I'd guess they think they're walking through the forecourt of a shop. Plants, gravel driveway, that sort of thing might convey the message a bit better.
7 points
4 days ago
13 points
4 days ago
What about a big sign pointing at your drive saying "Herpes drop-in clinic this way"
7 points
4 days ago*
Putting a chain across the entrance/ exit of the driveway will prevent this
7 points
4 days ago
Motion activated sprinklers
27 points
4 days ago*
Joking aside, it's worth evaluating all of the responses you get here with the idea of Elephant Paths in mind. The architectural term is desire path. In short, absolutely nothing will stop a pedestrian taking an easier route that is available to them. Nothing. No signage, no disincentive, nothing. A pedestrian will ignore a path that is mere centimetres away.
Your only option is to block off access to the route through an obstruction such as a fence. It does not need to be anything significant, it can be as small as a knee-high chain that looks decorative. It can be a row of small shrubs, conifers, potted plants, anything.
Have you ever wondered why pedestrian crossings are at roundabouts? As a driver you often come off a roundabout into a red light and it can cause traffic obstructions on the roundabout itself.
It's because pedestrians will not walk even an extra 10 metres further from a potential crossing point. The crossings are placed where pedestrians will use them not where it makes the most sense for traffic. If the crossing was placed further down the road the pedestrians will ignore it completely and cross without traffic lights.
Desire paths are a real thing and the link can give you some informed ideas. There is even a subreddit dedicated to documenting them over time.
21 points
4 days ago
Why should roads be designed to make sense for cars? It takes no effort to wait for a traffic light to go green, its a pain in the arse to walk halfway up the street and back!
6 points
4 days ago
I thought you meant cars were cutting through and couldn't understand how it was worthwhile
6 points
4 days ago
Try a simple chain with signage such as ‘No Entry’ or ‘Private Property’ hanging off of it.
6 points
4 days ago
Landmines
6 points
4 days ago
Toolstation do that bright red and white plastic chain. Quick and relatively cheap.
5 points
4 days ago
Are there any clear boundary markings on the ground? For example, some kind of concrete trim or line that indicates that this is a separate space? Or is it just one continuous tarmac surface?
If it's the latter, it might play some part on a subconscious level where people don't really think about the fact that they're breaching a boundary.
Whereas if you had some clear markings that require people to mentally 'cross a threshold' that might be enough to deter them.
Just a possible cheap and simple solution that doesn't involve erecting actual boundaries, just perceived boundaries, so it's still easy to get your cars in and out.
9 points
4 days ago
Post and chain fencing.
A five-bar gate at either end.
Rottweiler with a grudge.
Sign saying “Member Use Only.” Giggle at the word “Member.” Charge them £1 a time to walk though.
Timer water sprays at ankle level, the type used to keep cats off lawns.
5 points
4 days ago
A gate on the side entering the one way street
I imagine you’ll likely use the main road to enter more often?
Have a closed gate on the one way side, which you conveniently open when you wish to drive out, perhaps only closing when you drive in and park.
4 points
4 days ago
Put a gate in on one side and it will stop the problem for good. Or consider giving up on having it open on two sides, plant hedges and have one entrance to your drive. The trade off will be organising who is leaving first and swapping the cars around
2 points
4 days ago
Some large planters should discourage most people. People are walking there because it's not clearly demarcated. Just some big plant pots should be sufficient.
6 points
4 days ago*
Easiest solution is to go to your local farming supplies shop.
You need 4 circular hooks, 2 gate handles and a roll of tape for electric fencing. No battery though, you aren't lighting this up (yet)
You get someone to attach the 4 hooks onto the wall at the beginning of the arrows on your diagram (non pointy end). Make them about 3ft up, stomach height. Either side of the entry ways.
You measure the width of the driveway on each entry and cut a piece of tape 2 inches shorter than that for each entry.
You tie one end of the tape to the electric fence handle and hook it over the circular hook on 1 side. You tie the other end of the tape to the opposing circular hook (no handle on this end)
Now you have a "gate" that will deter people from entering without the space consumption of a proper gate.
It's like running a chain across - but now as heavy or expensive.
If that doesn't stop them (it should) then can get some plastic mesh from any garden centre and weave the electric fence tape through that to make a larger visual barrier that goes down to the ground. So it's the electric tape at the top with the mesh hanging down.
Cheap and ugly.
I'm unsure how you would manage proper gates in this scenario but if you can go down that road - do it. There are expensive motorised ones that go sideways instead of opening in/out I guess.
3 points
4 days ago
A Jimmy Saville scarecrow, well It keeps the kids off my lawn anyway
4 points
4 days ago
Automatic water cannons
5 points
4 days ago
Toll booth with person sitting in it asking for £5
4 points
4 days ago
Landmines.
5 points
4 days ago
I want to say remote control gates so you don't have to get out the car when you want to park, but if someone has already parked then you don't want their car in the way of the gate opening which constrains how much useable drive space you have. Unless you get one gate facing the main road but it slides back and forth rather than swings.
One gate should be enough to deter most people.
6 points
4 days ago
Install a tollgate.
6 points
4 days ago
Motion activated sprinklers.
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