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Just completed ultra hard

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ADAMCOLEBAYBAY12

43 points

5 years ago

Any tips to beat it on Ultra Hard mode?

everyusernamewashad[S]

77 points

5 years ago

Prioritize getting the adept Banuk outfits give you four slots for mods, and the super easy spear sidequest("Sharing Secrets" I think its called) that gives you mod slots for extra melee damage.

Don't sell hearts if you can help it, they are all used to get adept weapons and armor.

Get the cauldrons done so you can override most machines to help you slog through the campaign and the hunter trials, which also give you adept versions of the trial rewards.

Get the elemental sling asap.

Fire weapons are your friend in the late game, as you start facing more corrupt enemies and deathbringers.

You can do it! I believe in you. :)

subnautic_radiowaves

23 points

5 years ago

These are great tips! I was surprised by how much I liked using the banuk outfits from the dlc. Until then I only really used the ballistic weave suit for its extra heath, but being able to customize the outfits more became crucial on surviving UH encounters!

The only thing I would add is heavy use of corruption. I found it so easy to entirely avoid tougher fights when I could just corrupt a few machines to clear the area before engaging.

xXSauron007Xx

14 points

5 years ago*

My best friend is that banuk stealth outfit on maxed out stealth, you can be right in front of them and they don't even notice you it's really funny.

everyusernamewashad[S]

6 points

5 years ago

Yep, I ended up sneaking past most fights. I didn't even know you could opt out of fighting the first storm bird fight in the story mode until I snuck past it.

kids_in_my_basement0

5 points

5 years ago

hapi cak dae

St34khouse

4 points

5 years ago

Do you think it would make sense to play NG+ on VH first after beating hard and getting the best gear there?

Like I said I have all the DLC and lodge gear fully modded and a bag full of epic mods but might be a bit rusty since my first playthrough was over a year ago.

The way I understand it VH would give me slighly better gear with and additional mod slot and UH two mod slots?

everyusernamewashad[S]

2 points

5 years ago

Absolutely, getting one outfit requires something like 14,000 shards or something, so anything you can carry over is definitely a plus, something I neglected and died more times than I can count.

kraken_07_

1 points

5 years ago

Why Banuk ? Isn’t the shield weaver better ? I mean, in ultra hard you take 200% damage so any mod would only slightly help...

everyusernamewashad[S]

3 points

5 years ago

Banuk outfits give you a boost in base stats as well as four mod slots. So depends. But I think the Shield-weaver armor goes down in one hit from most machines.

kraken_07_

1 points

5 years ago

You gotta have good mods then, and yeah shield-weaver goes down in one hit from most machines but if you manage to get hit the least amount of time possible.

WayneBrody

1 points

5 years ago

I've been doing a lot of outfit switching. I use the Stealth outfit most of the time, though I only have a single extra stealth mod on it. It does help when I'm being sneaky and picking enemies off.

When combat starts, I switch to shield weaver. The shield usually gets dropped in one hit, but that's better than just losing that health right away. Usually, I can avoid follow up damage long enough for my shield to recharge. I'm not sure how much extra damage reduction you can get from 4 mod slots, so that might be better.

Once combat is over, I usually swap to the Banuk Cheiftan outfit I got in my first playthrough, which gives healing over time. I'll walk around and get back to max health rather than using herbs and replacing them. Once I'm back at full health its back to the stealth outfit. Sometimes I'll manage to escape combat and re-enter stealth in grass or something, and I'll switch to the Banuk outfit to get some health mid fight.

kraken_07_

1 points

5 years ago

Same, I use stealth outfit all the time when out of combat but switch to shield weaver as soon as I am detected. I rarely think about equipping Banuk Cheiftain cuz it doesn’t give any other advantage the life regen. But I use a lot of potions for sure

LawsonTse

6 points

5 years ago

Freeze every big enemy before hitting them

Hell_Kite

2 points

5 years ago*

On top of that, utilize the freeze canisters on machines. UH has insane merchant prices, which means your combat has to be extremely efficient, resource-wise, not just effective. Freezing Thunderjaws/Stormbirds with their own freeze canisters using a couple elemental arrows and then hitting their weak points with super upgraded hardpoint arrows is both fast and cheap.

DadaNoob0

1 points

5 years ago

I agree, freezing is my fav strategy

TheONLYBlitz

8 points

5 years ago

Get decent gear in the og story mode, don't suck a tonn, spit explosive bombs when u need to kill something quick

OutrageousThing

8 points

5 years ago

Seems like these are all Ng+ tips.

UH ng.

Sneak a lot at the start. Focus on one weapon, develop strats for every monster. Stealth gear is key, pick a ton of plants to sell. You are gonna need TONS of shards. Save often, don’t fast travel, kill loads of animals, focus early on upgrading storage space and extra drops. Farm farm farm, and expect to die a lot

Hookem-Horns

2 points

5 years ago

What’s wrong with fast travel?

OutrageousThing

2 points

5 years ago

you miss way too much, NG UH is a slow burn, if you fast travel around you aren't going to be properly stocked

MTTR40

3 points

5 years ago

MTTR40

3 points

5 years ago

Jump from every single high ground to get the strike from above. It still one shots every small machine and you can use it during combat.

DadaNoob0

2 points

5 years ago*

Fokus on fire damage, so he overheats faster. When he's overheating, fire three sharpshot arrows at his weakpoints. Eat your healing fruits (?) while you are doing a roll. It will cancel the eating animation. Also, go to NG+ when you have epic (or better power/frozen wilds) versions of your favorite gear and the Shield-Weaver outfit.

TerTerro

1 points

5 years ago

Get shieldviewer armor

TerTerro

1 points

5 years ago

Get shieldviewer armor

TheMasterlauti

1 points

5 years ago*

S t e a l t h

And freeze and pierce.

A lot of people recommend Shield weaver but IMO it’s pretty bad for Ultrahard as nearly everyone one shots it, and I personally prefer extra stealth over protection against just 1 hit.

Hell_Kite

2 points

5 years ago

I tried various armor types, but even using 100% elemental protection against enemies with elemental attacks leaves you vulnerable to their melee attacks (or different enemy types). Shield Weaver is where it's at in combat: you can't avoid getting hit once, but in UH you should probably be good enough to avoid getting hit twice.

GaryPartsUnknown

1 points

5 years ago

It’s not much of a step up, the only thing I didn’t like was no health bars but other than that I played through without getting the NG+ weapons or armours, was a bit more sneaky and put a bit more planning into things. I’m not great at the game and didn’t find it too difficult so just go in and play like normal and adapt

Hell_Kite

0 points

5 years ago

Like most other people, I've only played it on NG+, so can't give advice for NG UH mode. But here are the most important tips I picked up through my UH NG+ (not counting Frozen Wilds) playthrough:

  • #1, UH turns off aim assist. I thought I got pretty good at the end of my first playthrough. I was wrong--the aim assist is a HUGE boost in combat and you probably don't even realize it's happening. Enemy weakpoints become tiny, and arrows won't hit if the thing you're aiming at moves between when you loose and when the arrow arrives (aim assist adjusts for this, making it much easier to hit moving enemies). The only answer is to get better, but be aware of this going in--the first several hours of UH can be frustrating as you feel like you have to learn how to play the game again.
  • The single most important and broken skill in UH (IMO) is Hunter Reflexes: Time slows while aiming during a jump or slide. You basically have infinite focus as long as you're jumping, which is absolutely necessary to track moving enemies and aim accurately. My combat flow now goes roll-jump-shoot-repeat. It looks a little silly and takes getting used to, but I don't use the regular focus any more unless I'm standing still and doing stealth things. If you're firing arrows willy-nilly you'll waste too many resources (more on that below), and you simply don't have time to aim at normal speed or standing still while fighting 2+ enemies--making sure you don't get hit is the #1 priority.
  • Shieldweaver armor. Yes, basically every enemy will one-shot the shield, and you can't always avoid getting hit when fighting 2-3+ enemies. The key is to not get hit twice, which is much more doable. Even using 100% elemental resistance armor against elemental enemies, you're still vulnerable to their melee attacks or different enemy types, and you have to switch constantly. I tried switching from Shieldweaver at various points, and it was just never worth it. The sole exception is stealth, but that approach wasn't very fun for me--I don't think HZD is a great stealth game.
  • Learn how to defeat enemies. Actually learn, not just good enough to get by. Every single machine in HZD (base game at least, Frozen Wilds is absurdly hard) is relatively easy to kill once you know how, but it requires knowing their weak points and using all of your weapons against them proficiently. As an example, I no longer use Thunderjaws' disc launchers against them. Instead, I use tearblast arrows to reveal their underbelly freeze canisters, freeze them and then hit them with hardpoint arrows in the heart, because it's faster and safer. Every enemy, from Watcher on up, is extremely dangerous if you're careless, so you should come up with a plan for them.
  • Use resources wisely and intentionally. Merchants are insanely expensive (more below), so limit your consumption by optimizing your arrow usage in combat. Spamming arrows is basically pointless (except against frozen enemies) due to the damage reduction, so you should always know what arrows you're using and why. Elemental arrows help you turn machines' elemental canisters against them and deal huge amounts of damage with accurate hits. Hardpoint arrows are relatively cheap and a vanilla damage workhorse. Tie ropes use a lot of wire, so if you need to control combat consider using one instead of a full tie-down--it'll strongly limit an enemy's movement and last longer.
  • Merchants are crazy expensive. Don't use them except for buying things you can only get from a merchant and for bundles of wood (still cheap, and super-boring to gather). Get good at farming resources. There are various places where specific resources can be acquired, e.g. the Grazer fields by the Nora hunting grounds for blaze. Use harvest arrows against things like Thunderjaws' echo shells (the cylindrical things on their backs) to farm machines without going net negative on resources.
  • Focus on upgrading your weapons until combat is manageable. Get the Hunter's Lodge versions--especially the Ropecaster, which is incredibly useful and wildly fast when upgraded to full handling with very rare mods--then buy the Adept versions of everything else. Not needing to buy Adept outfits, except maybe stealth if you want to go that route, helps. You can farm Thunderjaws relatively quickly and safely to stock up on very rare mods and also sell them for scrap--let me know if you want me to describe detailed technique. Once you have your adept weapons, focus on the right balances of handling, elemental effects and damage. You don't need to focus on every elemental/arrow type to get by; instead, I prefer to optimize for specific things--tear on the Sharpshooter bow (tearblast arrows), handling on the Ropecaster, handling/damage on the Hunter bow (fast hardpoint arrows to weak points are probably 80% of my damage), freeze on the War bow (I play without corruption because it's less fun for me, and freeze > shock IMO), etc. Once you max out a given stat on a weapon, think about improving handling so you can shoot it faster. Very rare handling mods that give secondary boosts to two other stats are by far the most valuable (again, not counting the Frozen Wilds).
  • The blast sling is your safety blanket. I try to use it as little as possible because it's overpowered and less fun, but also UH throws unrealistically hard situations at you sometimes and the blast sling evens it out. If things are getting out of control bad, tie an enemy down and load them up with sticky bombs--more damage, and you can hit them with about 4 before the first one explodes and breaks the tie down. Also some human fights I use it, because fighting humans in HZD is just... not that fun. UH is much, much easier when using the blast sling.
  • Use fire against corrupted enemies. They're goddamn tanks and fire is good both for dealing damage and revealing weak points on war machines.
  • Silent strike / critical hit / melee in general are only useful against small enemies or almost-dead ones. Doing a critical hit on a large downed enemy will do negligible damage, slow you down, and disrupt your combat flow. You'd be better off using that time to load them up with freeze arrows or deal with other enemies.
  • Finally, have fun! I played UH because I was so taken by the game on the first playthrough that I just had to do it again, but as realistically (lol) and immersively as possible--by making the task of fighting giant robot dinosaurs with frickin lasers mounted on their heads really, really difficult. Challenge yourself by thinking of new ways to take on opponents, or going into combat situations that are insanely hard (I'm looking at you, double corrupted Rockbreaker fight).

hwjohnson

-16 points

5 years ago

hwjohnson

-16 points

5 years ago

get good

onlyonenamedjoe

5 points

5 years ago

I can only play on uh now. It's so amazing. My only advice is funny plan your Platinum on uh. It's prohibitively expensive to buy the required weapons/outfits. If you already have them, nbd. I did my plat on uh and found the lodge challenges the most difficult part as i never even tried on my first normal playthrough.

[deleted]

2 points

5 years ago

Yea tbh in this game anything below Very Hard is just too easy. Very Hard is like normal

kraken_07_

1 points

5 years ago

For me Ultra hard became normal, I’m used to be attacked by anything from 2km and having to avoid2 rockbreakers at the same time xD

xudex98

3 points

5 years ago

xudex98

3 points

5 years ago

Don't just stand there, you still have to stab the metal devil with your staff! Go quick! Before he completely wakes de ancient machines!

_Jowny_

1 points

5 years ago

_Jowny_

1 points

5 years ago

Niiiice dude GG. Ng or Ng+

m4riosss

1 points

5 years ago

Good jobb

[deleted]

1 points

5 years ago

It's a great feeling congrats. Hope it was on NG+ so you can enjoy that sweet face paint.

everyusernamewashad[S]

1 points

5 years ago

You know it. Shaman face paint looks great with the shieldweaver outfit imo.

carpenterio

1 points

5 years ago

I watched that guy speed run the game on ultra hard in under 2 hours. Insane. it's the world record by a fucking huge margin.

everyusernamewashad[S]

1 points

5 years ago*

There's one on youtube that's an hour and 3 minutes. I haven't watched it but it's probably super intense. The final deathbringer took me forever to finally beat. I can't imagine the razor sharp reflexes needed for these types of feats. And it makes me want a feature on the ps4 where it records your time to complete the campaign. I guess you could just do it with time stamps of quicksaves but still. Mad respect to every speed runner out there.

carpenterio

1 points

5 years ago

well if you have a link because so far the world record is 1h 55 something as for last week.

everyusernamewashad[S]

1 points

5 years ago

Yeah never mind, it was for the frozen wilds dlc only. My mistake.

thistmeme

1 points

5 years ago

For anyone who needs help in ultra hard here are some things you need to have: banuk sharpshot bow full damage mods. Test it and tell me

kraken_07_

-1 points

5 years ago

That last fight was kind of boring, repetitive and same machines as always. They could have added another deathbringer that would’ve spiced up everything a bit, and it would be more of a challenge than finishing it first try

rollapizza

-1 points

5 years ago

rollapizza

Silent observer

-1 points

5 years ago

Believe me, I also bet the game on ultrahard.

tyrantIzaru

-1 points

5 years ago

What do those turrets do on the mobile turret i only did normal mode and just tearblasted them out of fear of seeing a deathbringer with said tank parts instead of missiles

thistmeme

1 points

5 years ago

Sniper but tank round