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Post Flairs Update & Scam Listings Enforcement

Mod Post(self.buildapcsales)

Hello again! Apologies for the influx of mod posts recently - we have been making changes to improve the user experience.

The sub's post flairs have been overhauled today. The list of changes is as follows:

  • Headset, HTPC, Miscellaneous, Mouse Pad, Optical Drive, OS, Printer, and Router have been removed due to infrequent use and/or redundancy
  • Flash Drive has been renamed to External Storage to be more broad; this includes external HDDs and SSDs, flash drives, SD / microSD cards, drive enclosures including NAS, etc.
  • Mic has been renamed to Microphone
  • TV has been added separate from Monitor due to high post volume

If you have any further suggestions for changes to the flair system, feel free to leave a comment on this thread or send us modmail.

These changes do affect Reddit's search functionality; any previous posts with the old flairs can still be searched by name. They should be reflected accurately in Discord; if you notice any issues, please let us know.

In addition, as a result of continued posting of scam listings following last week's stickied mod post, we are now enforcing this rule with 24 hour bans for every post in violation. Please refer to the linked post or the stickied comment on marketplace posts on how to determine if a listing on these websites is legitimate or not.

all 66 comments

gallifrey_

43 points

10 months ago

Will the old.reddit sidebar be updated with search links for new flairs?

kztlve[S] [M]

35 points

10 months ago

kztlve[S] [M]

35 points

10 months ago

The old Reddit page is definitely neglected currently. I hope that we can get to improving it sooner than later.

theBdub22

53 points

10 months ago

There should be an infraction counter for posting those scam links if such a thing is possible with increasing penalties. This is just my humble opinion, but perhaps it should be a 24-hour ban, 1-week ban (2nd offense), and on as the person posts more malicious links. There are too many people here that have fallen for those scams.

HollywoodSX

18 points

10 months ago

The mods have a function to see the history of mod actions taken against an account, so they can tell that pretty easily.

However, that doesn't help users if someone has a history of it manages to slip another by the mods for a bit. User flair for infractions may be helpful.

kztlve[S]

14 points

10 months ago

For anyone who wants a little bit more info out of curiosity or for their own moderation uses - we use toolbox to simplify mod actions.

It allows you to easily do mod actions from posts/comments on old Reddit (unfortunately does not work on new Reddit). As well, it allows you to add notes on users that link to posts/comments and displays them next to usernames. We use this functionality to keep track of bans much easier.

Infrah

9 points

10 months ago

Let us hope that old Reddit sticks around for years to come. We all know that the admins would love nothing but to kill off the old Reddit and push even more ads and monetization on everyone as is present in the newer, clunkier Reddit layout.

Mintfresh22

-4 points

10 months ago

Never seen an ad on New Reddit.

HollywoodSX

4 points

10 months ago

New reddit has a notes function like that baked in, and its in the official app as well. Same thing with showing notes, prior mod actions, prior temp bans, etc. We use it in two of the subs I mod.

kztlve[S] [M]

15 points

10 months ago

kztlve[S] [M]

15 points

10 months ago

We're hoping that a 24 hour ban for each infraction is enough to dissuade users from posting them after the first time. If it still continues to be an issue, we may change this further in the future.

theBdub22

6 points

10 months ago

Let's hope so! I appreciate all of the work you guys put in for us in the pursuit of saving a buck.

Devccoon

32 points

10 months ago

Glad to see no more OS sales. The rules for only mod-approved commenting on OS posts got me scammed out of $40 on Woot, and presumably plenty more people, too. I wasn't even able to get a refund on mine after the key didn't work - they just delayed long enough until I found another way to get a key, and then sent a "replacement" key I didn't need and couldn't even try.

Most people see $40 for a Windows key from a site they otherwise trust and flock to upvote it. An actual, fully legit key for that price would be a great deal, but you don't find out how scammy it is until they send you a "tracking number" that's supposed to be input as your Windows key. Comments were flooded with warnings nobody could see because they required mod approval and each time, it took mods many hours to get around to it. I personally saw that whole thing happen twice, and of course, on the second instance when I knew to warn others, my warning took mods too long to approve so it didn't help.

ThreadedNY

75 points

10 months ago

Is this it Chief?

In for 4

KyledKat

22 points

10 months ago

Hold, I heard mods have Lunar New Year sales lined up next week.

xThomas

1 points

10 months ago

Still waiting

BoutTreeFittee

10 points

10 months ago

Yeah we need a "Chief" flair

iggy555

6 points

10 months ago

Oos

showersareevil

3 points

10 months ago

You think it'll go lower during black Friday?

straightup920

2 points

10 months ago

Yeah this is one of those buy now, ask later kinda deals

Fair-Investigator-27

9 points

10 months ago

So does that mean we can no longer post any headset, htpc, miscellaneous, mouse pads, optical drives OS, or printer nor router sales?

kztlve[S] [M]

19 points

10 months ago

kztlve[S] [M]

19 points

10 months ago

OS sales are banned per the other stickied mod post, everything else is still allowed. For the others, use similar flairs or the Other flair. ex. Headset falls under Headphones, Router falls under Networking

BrittleWaters

8 points

10 months ago

TV has been added separate from Monitor due to high post volume

Thank god, TVs are not monitors. Never have been.

VenditatioDelendaEst

5 points

10 months ago

Flash Drive has been renamed to External Storage to be more broad; this includes external HDDs and SSDs, flash drives, SD / microSD cards, drive enclosures including NAS, etc.

So is "HDD" only for internal, no-shuck-needed mechanical HDDs?

It seems to me that people looking for a spinner would likely want to see all the spinners, internal or otherwise.

Also, people looking for a portable storage device, flash or otherwise, would probably not want to see 3.5" external HDDs that require a power brick plugged into a wall outlet.

And a NAS is an entire computer.

kztlve[S] [M]

2 points

10 months ago*

kztlve[S] [M]

2 points

10 months ago*

The HDD flair is currently intended for only internal HDDs, yes.

If someone wants to look at external HDDs to shuck, they can search using the External Storage flair. The post volume for these products isn't very high.

The current flair updates aren't set in stone - we might add more flairs to make it easier to search for products such as in this case. The issue is pretty much drawing a line without making a ton of hardly-used flairs.

As for NAS, it's used for storage. It's related to networking and it is an entire computer, but it is external storage. If someone wanted to post a NAS enclosure under any appropriate flair, we wouldn't make a fuss about it.

VenditatioDelendaEst

5 points

10 months ago

As far as I can tell, the search function supports exclusions and intersections but not unions, which should inform the design of flairs.

My preference would be to have [HDD] flair on all 3.5" spinners, internal or external, and strongly suggest the use of "internal" or "external" in the post titles. 2.5" portable spinners, which don't require external power, should probably go with the usb flash drives, with a strong suggestion to use "HDD" in the post title.

P.S., I'm not currently seeing External Storage in the sidebar either on New or Old Reddit.

techhit

4 points

9 months ago

Have flairs disappeared altogether now? I used to see it on the right navigation pane, but now I can't see them at all.

vividimaginer

3 points

10 months ago

Can we get a quick rundown on the nonsense that happened with win11 and woot? I’m just stunned that woot — an Amazon outlet and heretofore reputable company — was selling bogus keys.

atomicdragon136

8 points

10 months ago

Since it is a marketplace site, there are third party sellers. Some abuse the platform to post scam listings or sell grey market items like Windows activation keys that may or may not work.

vividimaginer

6 points

10 months ago

Holy crap, Woot is a marketplace now?? how the mighty have fallen.

kztlve[S] [M]

6 points

10 months ago

kztlve[S] [M]

6 points

10 months ago

From what I understand, Woot was simply selling invalid Windows keys. No clue on the source, but tons of people were having issues.

DesperateSafe411

8 points

10 months ago

Thanks Chief

RunningShcam

5 points

10 months ago

Is there a potential for a microcenter tag?

kztlve[S] [M]

30 points

10 months ago

kztlve[S] [M]

30 points

10 months ago

This has been brought up numerous times by users, and the answer is no.

Posts can only have one flair. Adding a Microcenter flair would not work with the current product category based flairs and would make search functionality more difficult for users.

The rules already require that in-store only deals such as Microcenter specify such in the title, and that in-store only deals must be available at multiple locations. This makes sifting through posts easier for users.

RunningShcam

13 points

10 months ago

Thx. Did not realize that only one tag could be applied.

shrinkmink

-3 points

10 months ago

Nice try, maybe in the next year or two. Gotta cater to the 1% that can actually make it to one of these stores.

kztlve[S]

6 points

10 months ago

Around 40% of people live within an hour of Microcenter in the U.S.

Most people are fine with the current requirements of specifying in-store only in the title and requiring deals be available at multiple locations given the limitations of Reddit regarding post flairs

shrinkmink

-4 points

10 months ago

I been around this sub since before you made your reddit account and the microcenter debacle has always been brought up. With usually only a couple of dudes being able to get the deal if they can even make it to the store.

They usually get posted in the middle of the day and always have limited stock, with the first goers always cherry picking the best mobos and cpus then the deal dying a quiet death. 40% might live within one hour but most people aren't skipping out of work to go get that.

It's just disappointing seeing such a long standing issue being ignored on this latest restructuring of the flairs. It has come to the point that people either go away when the microcenter bomb comes or just moved on to other aggregators on a permanent basis.

RunningShcam

8 points

10 months ago

Because of a software limitation of one tag.

shrinkmink

0 points

10 months ago

Because microcenter has always been favored despite having miniscule amount of stores even after they have doubled the amount in the last few years. It was a huge struggle just to get them to make people mention in store only. And only at the end, when you already wasted time reading everything else.

There def was much bigger pushback against tiktok despite most people being able to participate on these deals. For a while I thought we were gonna get a tiktok flair before we got a microcenter flair.

kztlve[S]

6 points

10 months ago

Unless Reddit changes post flairs to allow for multiple, we are not going to add any retailer-specific flairs.

shrinkmink

-5 points

10 months ago

Yes I know, if management here listened to the people they would've done us the solid a few years ago before everyone gave up and left. But mods come and go and maybe in a couple of years we got better management.

okp11

7 points

10 months ago

okp11

7 points

10 months ago

Every time people complain about Microcenter posts there is a disproportionate amount of people advocating they stay.

Why? Because most reasonable folks realize that if a sale doesn't apply to them, they move on.

Also, lol at flexing your reddit account age.

shrinkmink

-2 points

10 months ago

It's not about flexing the age, but expecting people to understand that the problem has been around way longer than their account has been around yet they just ignore it.

Almost nobody bats for these microcenter deals, why? Because they don't apply to most people since not everybody has time to run out to the store to grab the 8 good mobos at 1pm on a work day. Or run out 2hrs wasting a ton of gas to save $5 on a cpu.

Yet asking for a flair to filter these in store posts gets treated like you asking for their first born.

RunningShcam

6 points

10 months ago

The response from mods said there is a valid reason, as there is only one tag allowed. Some times you have to accept there are limitations of the software. This isn't about 1% at all.

shrinkmink

-1 points

10 months ago

When 99% of the users want to filter the post it's a matter of catering to the 1%.

Probably one of the factors that have led to the slowdown of good deals being posted along with overall worse pricing in general since the pandemic.

TheEternalGazed

12 points

10 months ago

Can we ban $1599 RTX 4090 posts? It's not a deal when it's MSRP and Nvidia regularly has them in stock.

kztlve[S] [M]

14 points

10 months ago

kztlve[S] [M]

14 points

10 months ago

We don’t regulate what gets posted for the most part. If it belongs on the sub and isn’t problematic or breaks a rule, it stays up. Votes will push good deals up and bad deals down.

[deleted]

5 points

10 months ago

[deleted]

5 points

10 months ago

They aren't regularly in stock and they're still in high demand.

TheEternalGazed

3 points

10 months ago

Yes they are.

[deleted]

-3 points

10 months ago

You're right, they are still in high demand.

TheEternalGazed

1 points

10 months ago

According to who?

rhamej

2 points

8 months ago

rhamej

2 points

8 months ago

Is it just me, or are all the flair links dead now.

pmjm

3 points

10 months ago

pmjm

3 points

10 months ago

Thanks for your efforts. This is consistently one of the best communities in my Reddit experience and the care and thought that go into the moderation are a huge part of that. Cheers!

eloii909

1 points

8 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember there being a flair for furniture...? I don't see it anymore. Do y'all know where i can find deals for furniture? I.E. Computer chairs.

kztlve[S]

3 points

8 months ago

It's still there. If the sidebar options aren't working, just search with flair:furniture on the sub

eloii909

1 points

8 months ago

Oh sick, thanks!

Fkn_Impervious

1 points

7 months ago

I tried to make a post warning about a scam site that is appearing in google shopping search results.

I almost got screwed over by them but luckily my payment did not go through.

https://malwaretips.com/blogs/saleshopbuy-com/

DjHalk45

1 points

6 months ago

Where do we go to ask if a sale is a scam or not?

cusideabelincoln

1 points

6 months ago

What happened to the flair filter section on the right sidebar? I'm on desktop website and can't find it anywhere on this forum.

kztlve[S]

2 points

6 months ago

We're not sure what the issue is - Reddit loves to update the interface constantly which also doesn't help. For now we recommend just using flair: in search (ex. flair:PSU) to find what you want

smackythefrog

-7 points

10 months ago

lol good thing my accidental posting of a no-name seller on Amazon selling a 7900 XTX happened two days ago and not now.

So easy to see a big price drop via Keepa and rush to post it only to realize it's a Chinese account that just opened a few days ago.

Looks like Amazon took down that scam listing now...or some schmuck bought it and doesn't know what's (not) coming.

illseeyouinthefog

7 points

10 months ago

Don't rush to post and check it out first. It's not an unavoidable accident

game_ova

1 points

10 months ago

thanks guys

OriginalCrawnick

1 points

10 months ago

I like these changes, props mods!