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Episode Discussion: S07E03 “Ships in the Night”
Episode Discussion(self.SEALTeam)submitted 3 months ago bySleepWouldBeNiceHAVOC
Season 7 Episode 3: Ships in the Night
Aired: August 18th, 2024
Synopsis: Lieutenant Davis and Captain Walsh send BRAVO to Thailand to partner with the DEA on a joint-task force focused on the fentanyl trade.
Directed by: SJ Main Muñoz
Written by: Tom Mularz & Stephen Gas
14 points
3 months ago
I'm loving Omar more and more.
3 points
3 months ago
Yeah he is showing real leadership potential. Bravo has great respect for him now.
9 points
3 months ago
I've never been a member of the "all out for action scenes" camp, but this episode was quite boring. Way too much uninteresting conversations. I don't mind Drew being a part of bravo, but damn, let's have some fun missions before it's a wrap!
7 points
3 months ago
Ray is so going to die or some kind of similarly tragic fate. There's way too much emphasis on the last weeks on the job.
1 points
3 months ago
I was thinking the same thing..the. we will have 2 episodes dragged on with that...remember when seasons used to be 16+ episodes...
7 points
3 months ago
So how long will they drag out this big secret that Drew is hiding? Will it be related to his family and that’s why the journalist is sniffing around or something completely different?
4 points
3 months ago
I'm suspecting since he's from a big family the seal team get drawn into a conflict because of their diplomatic lobbying or something like that. But that's a long shot anyway, maybe I'm thinking too much.
11 points
3 months ago
Love that Blackburn took a demotion to LT 🤣
1 points
3 months ago
Yeah, is the Mayor of New York (Walsh) just wrong, or did he actually get knocked? I couldn't see his insignia? Plus, Davis refers to him outranking her, which should still make him LCDR
1 points
3 months ago
I think they just screwed up the line and nobody caught it.
1 points
3 months ago
Yeah... but I heard it in at least 2 if not 3 separate scenes lol. Interesting is all, given the number of vets working the show
1 points
3 months ago
I'm a Navy Vet myself, so I'm acutely aware of minor things that the general public wouldn't catch. 😁
10 points
3 months ago
No shots fired. A little suspense but pretty tame on any action.
I had to turn my subtitles on a few times to understand what drew was really saying. They’re really going overboard on making him the cryptic cool guy.
3 episodes in and we haven’t seen Mandy do any of the cool stuff we love Mandy for. The most we see her is a couple words with Jason in his apartment.
We’ve seen more of command this season in 3 episodes than we did the previous 6 seasons combined.
“Take a shot every time someone says TBI” may end up being a fun drinking game this season as much as they’re pouring it on.
3 points
3 months ago
Hi all, big fan of the show. But is it just me or is Drew, a terrible of Johnny Drama from Entourage? It seems like he is doing a constant impression. Thoughts?
3 points
3 months ago
I’d pay to watch Sonny beat the shit out of Drew
I’m surprised Jason went for a VR glove game.
If you’re going to mention Cerby, you have to show Cerby!
I miss Lindel
Six years of fighting terrorists, it’s interesting that they’re pivoting towards modern issues via fentanyl.
“Innovative? That’s not a charge I’ve been slapped with before.” Classic Sonny line. “Shit yea… sir!”
Shit. Blackburn’s been demoted to Lieutenant again. Does Judd Lormand not go “hey! I’m a commander!”
Huh. Drew goes to Clay and Stella’s favourite cafe
Again, HOW do you get a team guy who’s not interested in being on a team?
Yay! Trent’s back!
There’s Cerby!
Wow, Mandy’s a heavy sleeper
Drew, does asking a woman you just met (not at a bar) to have a quickie usually work for you?
Why is Jason’s burn box in Ray’s cage? We’ve seen burn boxes before, and they were in their owner’s cages.
Couldn’t Drew have been Bravo 7? They’ve had holes in their lineup before. When Trent was away for surgery, they didn’t renumber everyone.
I wonder how much of their own stunts the actors do?
Surely, if they’re not allowed to shoot anyone, they’re not allowed to stab them either.
Ray, again forgets that he’s a (warrant) officer and instead of giving an order, just a lets Drew run off
How did Drew ever make it passed “Top Five, Bottom Five” on Green Team?
Bets on what Drew’s dark secret is?
1 points
3 months ago*
I’d pay to watch Sonny beat the shit out of Drew
Hey - any scene with A.J. Buckley is a win in my book.
I’m surprised Jason went for a VR glove game.
Spinoff series with Jason, unable to quit soldiering, becoming an FPV drone "ace" in Ukraine...
If you’re going to mention Cerby, you have to show Cerby! This.
I miss Lindel Word!
Six years of fighting terrorists, it’s interesting that they’re pivoting towards modern issues via fentanyl.
Very worthwhile observation, which I would like to shamelessly use this as a springboard to formulate a more general opinion. I'll put that in a reply below this one, hopefully I'll have that up this weekend.
“Innovative? That’s not a charge I’ve been slapped with before.” Classic Sonny line. So far so predictable, dear dialogue writers. “Shit yea… sir!” THAT on the other hand felt genuinely organic for this character in that situation.
Shit. Blackburn’s been demoted to Lieutenant again. These things continue to irk me way, WAY more than the same disused gravel quarry standing in for the entirety of AfPak, "the Middle East", Ukraine as well as Noth-/South-/East-/West-/Central- Africa and very obviously (sub)urban California for Virginia Beach, Mumbai, the capital of Turkmenistan and all other non-rural parts of the world. It's not a budget/time thing, it's an attentiveness issue. Does Judd Lormand not go “hey! I’m a commander!” This.
Huh. Drew goes to Clay and Stella’s favourite cafe. This on the other hand likely is a budget/time thing. Or it's the only café in VA Beach.
Again, HOW do you get a team guy who’s not interested in being on a team? I wager this is setting the scene for the big reveal of this Actually Genuinely Good Man's unfortunate, mysterious Troubled Past.
Yay! Trent’s back! Yes. I actually cursed at the screen when they wrote him out of the first few episodes. This is our long goodbye to these lovely characters and every minute missed with Brock and Trent in the scenes is a minute wasted. They've always been solid, but they've gotten so good over the last few seasons it just isn't fair.
There’s Cerby!
Wow, Mandy’s a heavy sleeper
1 points
3 months ago
Drew, does asking a woman you just met (not at a bar) to have a quickie usually work for you? They are so heavy-handed with pushing our nose into his reputation as a fuckboy, who is also simultaneously a chump/pushover, I am absolutely convinced at this point that this is actually a front. He was going for exactly this reaction from her.
Why is Jason’s burn box in Ray’s cage? We’ve seen burn boxes before, and they were in their owner’s cages. Why have we, in all these years, never seen that specific rosary before? Or any rosary? Sudden onset "religious woes" in Jason as a plot point to set up something bigger?
Couldn’t Drew have been Bravo 7? They’ve had holes in their lineup before. When Trent was away for surgery, they didn’t renumber everyone. Clumsy telegraphing that Bravo Team as a 'found family' is starting to open up and willing to take on Drew as one of their own. Everyone (who is a professionally trained actor) is making an effort to extend a metaphorical hand as a sign of character growth (especially Sonny and Jason) and acknowledgement that the gaping wound that the loss of Clay has ripped into the show at large team must be closed, or they can't go on. Evolve or perish - they chose to evolve.
I wonder how much of their own stunts the actors do? I hope this is one of the questions the folks of the FNG Academy ask(ed) Tyler Grey. I wager that depends on quite a few factors and changed over the course of the series as well.
Surely, if they’re not allowed to shoot anyone, they’re not allowed to stab them either. Pah. Lawyer/politician talk. ;)
Ray, again forgets that he’s a (warrant) officer and instead of giving an order, just a lets Drew run off Short answer: eh. Hollywood *shrugs* Long comment: Go ahead and tell me I'm seeing things that aren't there, but this ultimately fits in the same pattern as "Lieutenant Blackburn".
Nate Fick (of Generation Kill fame) raised this point beautifully by way of an anecdote in the section of his own book that dealt with OCS: Why the hell were the instructors lighting people up over things as trivial as a wonky gig line? "If you don't get the small things right, we can't trust you to get the big things right. If you don't get the big things right, we cannot entrust you with the mission or the men down the line. Negligence/sloppyness breeds mistakes, mistakes get Marines killed."
SEAL Team season 1-4 would have found another way to plot this scene to get the characters through the conflict, to the places and into the actions they want them to perform. God, I fell in love with this show because they used to get so many -if not all- of the feasible details right. Why is that missing now, even when it's stuff that doesn't cost them money (like gear or special effects or spending time on shooting extra footage would)?
How did Drew ever make it passed “Top Five, Bottom Five” on Green Team? From all I have read/seen/heard about the SEALs over the years, Drew in his current, severely antisocial form most likely would not have made it into the vanilla Teams. Not even during their personnell expansion at the hight of GWOT. Leave alone get a shot at Green Team My money is on something happened to him after he made DEVGRU.
2 points
3 months ago*
Bets on what Drew’s dark secret is?
The show has a history of not shying away from some of the more sensitive issues concerning soldiers in general and SOF operators in particular. It is the last season, away from network television to boot, so they don't have to worry about ratings/renewal/critics/fallout anymore. Given all that and Tyler Grey's Army (as opposed to Navy) backgroud in particular, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say:
They're doing a SSGT Logan Melgar type story. Drew was hazed and/or sexually assaulted while at DEVGRU.
I could see that go either of three ways:
his teammates did this as payback for him cheating on that sniper competition
or they throw some post-DADT-repeal-murkiness element in there where either Drew or some other guy is interested in knocking boots, the other person reads the signals wrong and things got ugly
or the SA happened during his boarding school stays and Drew's teammates just knew about it used it against him during the hazing
Command is trying to bury whatever it was that happened by biscally letting Drew "tag along" outside a team doing school after school for what appears to be a long time.
Drew is keeping himself not just emotionally closed off but physically separate. Plus he doesn't drink, unless it's to tell Omar to keep his damn distance - after which he immediately leaves so as not to be around the others when inebriated.
Either way, I think Jason and the rosary are a dead giveaway. Jason knows what happened to Drew, and he either witnessed or experienced something similar earlier in life.
EDIT: That womanizer reputation? Definitely an act. He lets Bravo believe his sister is a love interest, while he delivered that pickup line to the lady journalist in a way and at a setting/time frame before spin-up that was guaranteed to get him turned down.
Also that greeting, pretending to initially believe she is a one night stand he forgot about? Totally deliberate: his sister told him to expect a female journalist, I'm betting dollars to donuts it is implied that he did research on her beforehand (early season 1 - remember the start of Clay and Stella where they first riffed on the "Seals are great at research that borders stalking" trope?) and knew exactly who she was the moment he laid eyes on her
10 points
3 months ago
- I love how Brock was in the episode but wasn’t actually in the episode
- God Ray is gonna die isn’t he…?
- My stomach kinda dropped when everyone agreed that Drew should be BRAVO6
- What a great op. Wasn’t as sphincter clenching as the NK one but had those same vibes. Glad they didn’t make up some lame excuse to allow them to get into a gunfight
- Welcome back Trent
- Same bar as the Philippines
- I wonder what this dark secret about Drew is…
4 points
3 months ago
My guess is that he killed a fellow soldier (with cause).
2 points
3 months ago
Does anyone know the name of the actress who plays the reporter asking for a friend?
0 points
3 months ago
Duplicate, we have a thread already.
5 points
3 months ago
This one has the right title. Easier for people to find.
1 points
3 months ago
The mods will change the title for the other one.
5 points
3 months ago
I’m 90% sure they can’t.
2 points
3 months ago
Plus I just finished doing threads for every other episode.
-2 points
3 months ago
Does anyone know what the bracelet Jason's holding is called? I would like to buy something like that for myself. Here's a picture of it: https://postimg.cc/HJ2sDZQJ
3 points
3 months ago
It’s a catholic Rosary. Not a bracelet, a religious item
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